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Lalalala... GODWIN

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Psy-Fi

It's as inevitable as death and taxes.

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She's a Brick House

Isbjørn

Every discussion has that guy. I'm that guy now.

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Psy-Fi

Watch your back, Donald...

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William_the_Bloody

Oh my god!....LMAO, he's fu(kin insane!!! That's the only possible explanation.

Ban all Muslim immigration?!???? How far right is he going to go. He makes Marine Le Pen look like Gandhi, lol!

How do you go from I'm going to create a lot of manufacturing jobs in inner cities, to ban all Muslims!!!

He's insane, he has to be, either that or the Republican base is a lot further to the right than I imagined, and this strategy is going to work for him...crazy!

Chula Vista

He finally went too far. Every GOP politico is condeming him. He's being called ISIS's #1 recruiter now by lots of defense guys.

I miss JWB right now.....

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Neapolitan

He might not have been very careful with his speech, nor said it in the most PC way. But what Trump was trying to get at was that the "country's representives" should get their act together & come up with a comprehensive way to ensure the America people that they are not letting terrorist in with immigrants. From what I gather it was a permanent ban he was calling for, just a temporary one"until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on." "ISIS's #1 recruiter" will always be the madrasas that teach jihad bil saif - which is something no one really talks about.

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Chula Vista

Like that's really going to happen. How about we come up with a comprehensive way to insure that mentally ill and/or racist people don't shoot up schools, Church groups, and movie theaters.
Or a comprehensive way to insure that Christian nuts don't kill abortion clinic staff. Or a comprehensive way to insure that anti-government people don't blow up federal buildings.

Trump is a fascist demagogue. Pure and simple. Did he not get the memo that most of the recent extremist Islamic shootings/bombings were carried out by US citizens?

The folks cheering wildly at his post "ban Muslims" Trump events should chew on this.

10 of the Worst Terror Attacks by Extreme Christians and Far-Right White Men | Alternet

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

GuitarBizarre

The funny thing here is, you're talking about racial profiling, judging people based on "Risk Factors" that essentially boil down to religion, skin colour, place of origin and geopolitical ties.

Of those, only geopolitical ties are a valid criteria for judging the "Risk" an individual poses to the US or any other country, western or not, ISIS affiliated or not, and the fact is, it is not hard to hide those ties, or obfuscate them effectively.

Every other one of those judgements comes solely from a place that says "We admit we do not have the first ****ing clue about how to separate a peace loving family from the middle east compared to a radical militant group"

It's going up against guerilla tactics and infiltration tactics with a nuke. You can only possibly achieve one of two things.

One is that you kill, hurt, destroy the lives of millions of people who did nothing wrong, or worse, were trying to escape violence that had nothing to do with them. You deny them an opportunity to find the safety they FULLY AND TRULY DESERVE.

But at least you got rid of some bad people along with your incalculable collateral damage.

The other is that you find yourself unable to actually use the weapon you've got effectively, because your opponent simply hides in the ****ing forest where you can't find them and takes pot shots when they can - a war of attrition that will cost you vastly more, as a heavily funded and provisioned military force, than it will cost them as a poorly funded guerrilla group.

I mean ****, most ISIS related terror activities were financed through legal means and cost less than $10,000 to pull off. And you're suggesting banning muslim immigration in it's entirety, which will cost millions. A win for ISIS then, right? They've hurt you financially hundreds of times over the cost of any operation they might go in for planning, just by continuing to EXIST.


It's an idiotic plan and, as I said, can only possibly make sense to the kind of person that sees nothing wrong with making themselves an unwitting target of hatred by endorsing full-spectrum political profiling of people based on race and religion.

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William_the_Bloody

Well I'm sure I can speak for JWB in that he would say that his poll numbers just shot up further, as a result of his comments.

The Republican base (Blue collar workers) is in complete revolt right now against the establishment, and they hate the liberal media, so every time Trump's condemned as a racist or a bigot they stand behind him even more.

In short, they're angry as hell because they've been used by the Rockefeller Republican for decades, who pander to them on issues like immigration, and then fu)k them over by doing the exact opposite once in power. (Bush 1 & 2)

You therefore have a large segment of the population who feels completely disenfranchised by both the left and the right, and Trump has finally given them a voice.

Trump's comments on putting a temporary ban on all Muslim immigration though is, both ignorant and appalling, and appeals to the lowest common denominator of humanity.

He's therefore completely lost any hope of winning the support of Republican candidates like Rubio and Bush to win swing states like Florida if he wins the nomination.

I'm not writing him off though, afterall he's effectively taken out every major establishment candidate in the primaries so far, and that is quite the undertaking in itself.