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Lucem Ferre 12-01-2016 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1776329)
The media was not lying or biased it milked Trump for huge profits and in return basically ran his campaign for him.

If anything the media was incredibly soft on him until it was too late

They were biased. I absolutely hate Trump with a passion but even I could see a clear bias against him. Probably for the same reasons. As I said once I learned Hillary would pay them to run stories and use exaggerated polls, I don't think she needed to pay them to do that because they already hate Trump.

Frownland 12-01-2016 12:42 AM

http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads...8808882890.jpg

Ok so who actually thinks this was made by a neonazi or Trump supporter? This is one of the most obvious attempts at artificially sparking outrage that I've ever seen, and yet I see it over and over again. Then again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again.

Zhanteimi 12-01-2016 01:53 AM

Clearly not made by a Trump supporter.

djchameleon 12-01-2016 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1776337)
A lot of people were upset because Obama didn't go through with many of the things he had promised. They didn't want another Obama because they felt nothing would get done in the white house. That's how many people feel about Obama. I know Obama did a lot in the white house that those people took for granted, but hey, what can you do?


Also, this is a very predictable swing because it seems as though the voters that aren't strapped in with a particular party tend to swing every 8 years after they get sick of a president. Like Bush. After bush people were just sick of Republicans so they voted Democrat. Now it seems people are sick of Democrats and want Republicans.

The second half of what you said is true but the first half is a product of gridlock in congress. The same thing that Frown says is a good thing is the same thing that people end up critizing Obama for. He tried the stupid bi partisan crap in the first two years when Dems controlled congressed but it didn't work and then ever since the Republicans took over it has been grid lock and he couldn't get many things done that he wanted to.

Although there are a few things that improved over his eight years: National Debt was decreased, unemployment also decreased to 4%, gas prices went down which prople don't want to give him credit for but it happened under his watch so give it to him. The reality of the situation is that people took what was happening in their everyday life along with anecdotal evidence and used that to decide who to vote for. If Obamacare was pricier for thrm and their friends they feel like it should be repealed. If they are struggling to find work. It must be Obama's fault and they listened to those empty promises of bringing back jobs to the US. Ha! If a businessman that gained profit from cheap labor overseas tells you he is going to stop that process and you believe him. I have some beach front property in Oklahoma to sell you.

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Originally Posted by mordwyr (Post 1776345)
Clearly not made by a Trump supporter.

Why is it so clearly?

Also a lot of the people drawing swastikas lately are dsylexic. I haven't seen many properly drawn.

I guess it is clearly to you because you see a few stories of people pretending so all signs of hate are fake and all reported hate crines are fake too huh?

Zhanteimi 12-01-2016 03:56 AM

It's just obviously fake.

Neapolitan 12-01-2016 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1776348)

Why is it so clearly?

I think a better question to ask would be "Why is it so clear?"

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1776348)
Also a lot of the people drawing swastikas lately are dsylexic. I haven't seen many properly drawn.

:nono: I don't think this should bother you. Only people with a vested interest (aka down with the cause) are concern enough that it should be done right.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1776348)
I guess it is clearly to you because you see a few stories of people pretending so all signs of hate are fake

Take the allegedly two Jewish students accused of graffiting the Alice Miller chapel for instance. What people think is fake hate isn't fake hate but real hate. They are Jewish so they were clearly faking their hate for Jews, but the graffiti was real and intended to stir up negative feeling for Trump and his supporters. The real hate is here is the hatred for people who support Trump. By faking an incident of Trump supporters vandalizing NWU property exposed the depths some will go to defame the other side. The two Jewish men only ended shaming themselves. The type of graffiti wasn't all symbols of hate but also symbols of a sexual nature, plus the name of Trump too. In all they were indicted with 24 counts.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1776348)
and all reported hate crines are fake too huh?

The correct plural form of "crine" is "crini" not "crines."

djchameleon 12-01-2016 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1776362)
:nono: I don't think this should bother you. Only people with a vested interest (aka down with the cause) are concern enough that it should be done right.

As much of a pain in the butt you are about typos happening, surely you would see why something being done wrong would bother me regardless if I am down with the cause or not. Which I'm not for the record.


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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1776362)
Take the allegedly two Jewish students accused of graffiting the Alice Miller chapel for instance. What people think is fake hate isn't fake hate but real hate. They are Jewish so they were clearly faking their hate for Jews, but the graffiti was real and intended to stir up negative feeling for Trump and his supporters. The real hate is here is the hatred for people who support Trump. By faking an incident of Trump supporters vandalizing NWU property exposed the depths some will go to defame the other side. The two Jewish men only ended shaming themselves. The type of graffiti wasn't all symbols of hate but also symbols of a sexual nature, plus the name of Trump too. In all they were indicted with 24 counts.

A few fake cases of hate crimes doesn't negate the fact that real hate crimes are happening and are on the rise. Racists and bigots feel vindicated by Trump winning. They feel like since he won everything that he said is okay. Trump decided to exploit racists and xenophobes to win and now that he has won he is trying to distance himself from them after fueling the fire. It isn't going to work that way.

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1776362)

The correct plural form of "crine" is "crini" not "crines."

I do most of my typing on a phone. Typos happen.

Chula Vista 12-01-2016 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1776369)
A few fake cases of hate crimes doesn't negate the fact that real hate crimes are happening and are on the rise. Racists and bigots feel vindicated by Trump winning. They feel like since he won everything that he said is okay. Trump decided to exploit racists and xenophobes to win and now that he has won he is trying to distance himself from them after fueling the fire. It isn't going to work that way.

Spot on. This just happened the other day.



And this was a week ago.


The Batlord 12-01-2016 11:29 AM

Why do both of those videos point out that the subject is white? We have eyes.

Cuthbert 12-01-2016 11:32 AM

lol at those videos.

Cool 'hate crimes' bros.


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