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Old 11-30-2016, 09:23 PM   #4771 (permalink)
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i wouldn't take it that far
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Old 11-30-2016, 09:25 PM   #4772 (permalink)
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Associated Press and BBC. Washington Post etc.

Are you one of those conspiracy theory people that don't trust the media unless it has your opinion?
Actually, I trust no media. That's how "conspiracy" I am. Everything has an angle, everything an agenda. But clearly you don't trust media unless it has your opinion.
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Old 11-30-2016, 09:27 PM   #4773 (permalink)
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Old 11-30-2016, 09:28 PM   #4774 (permalink)
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Actually, I trust no media. That's how "conspiracy" I am. Everything has an angle, everything an agenda. But clearly you don't trust media unless it has your opinion.
Everyone should be like this, but that doesn't mean that reliable news sources don't exist.
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Everyone should be like this, but that doesn't mean that reliable news sources don't exist.
It's about cobbling it all together, piecing together a holistic puzzle.
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Old 11-30-2016, 09:52 PM   #4776 (permalink)
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Actually, I trust no media. That's how "conspiracy" I am. Everything has an angle, everything an agenda. But clearly you don't trust media unless it has your opinion.
I take local news outlets with a grain of salt based on the stories they report. I look for the missing pieces to the stories that don't add up but as far as certain things regarding politics and other areas. I rely on those reliable sources I mentioned early.
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He offered something different to people who didn't see any positive change in their lives from Obama's presidency. Hillary offered a continuation of Obama. If she had separated herself from that instead of promising Obama 2.0, she would have won.

It's not rocket science.
That, and wiki leaks. Most people I know that hated Trump at first and were converted said it was because of the lying biased media.
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You want to be looking at the actual studies and data instead of getting this information second hand with an agenda attached

In general though if you're using multiple sources and you have basic critical thinking skills that'll work
That's what I do. When I hear a claim and I actually feel like researching it I usually search for evidence proving it and evidence disproving it. It's a bit too much work just to find the truth.
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I hate when I see something referenced and when I research it, all I can find are secondary sources and you have to dig through miles of drek to find the original interview or whatever it is that you're researching.
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I think Hillary pushing herself as Obama 2.0 was a winning strategy, Obama is well liked, but the people just didn't buy it
A lot of people were upset because Obama didn't go through with many of the things he had promised. They didn't want another Obama because they felt nothing would get done in the white house. That's how many people feel about Obama. I know Obama did a lot in the white house that those people took for granted, but hey, what can you do?


Also, this is a very predictable swing because it seems as though the voters that aren't strapped in with a particular party tend to swing every 8 years after they get sick of a president. Like Bush. After bush people were just sick of Republicans so they voted Democrat. Now it seems people are sick of Democrats and want Republicans.
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