The only thing I took from the debates is how often she told people not to vote for Trump, while Trump was putting his ideas (although ridiculous) forward. Nobody trusted her because she didn't give anyone a reason to. Her strategy was focused on bringing Trump down, while simultaneously giving him the win.

I mean...when the Democratic convention announces her as the new president before any results come in, there's something wrong. They should have fought harder, but instead gave Trump the win.

What ideas were Trump putting forward? He spent the entire debates attacking Hillary and that was it. Oh and being vague as duck.

He put plenty. He discussed what he'd do with immigration policies, and what he'd do in his first 100 days. Of course he also attacked Hillary, I wasn't insinuating that he didn't. But Hillary's campaign was focused on bringing Trump down, whereas it was just a secondary thing for Trump.

If policy was actually relevant this election (the coverage touched on it far too little), Donald Trump would be much more difficult to either caricaturize or delude yourself into supporting him, and he would not have won the election. Stupid oversensationalized scandals are apparently the most important topic for our candidates to discuss.

Anyway, that's actually part of the bad campaigning element: they didn't run Hillary on being Hillary, they ran her on her not-Trumpness.

From "An American President":

He didn't mention anything about first 100 days until after he won. Some of the vague things he said he wanted to do was mainly at rallies. Trump's only strategy was to insult Hillary and tear her down that was his strength. What are you talking about it being secondary? He hardly ever talked about his policy plans because he could never go into detail about anything.

Well when Hillary didn't combat his strategy, he basically didn't need to talk about his policies in depth. It was a **** show on both sides, but Hillary could've had the upper hand. The democratic party just felt it wasn't appropriate.

He offered something different to people who didn't see any positive change in their lives from Obama's presidency. Hillary offered a continuation of Obama. If she had separated herself from that instead of promising Obama 2.0, she would have won.

It's not rocket science.

Pretty much this. People were fed up this time, and Donald Trump knew that, and used it to his advantage.

Yeah, I've known quite a lot of ducks in my time, and they were all pretty vague.... :laughing:
They also ran her almost exclusively as "the female candidate". Vote to get our first woman president! Well, you have to have more than that to get people's vote.

Also, does anyone think the FBI thing was a set-up? It was sort of a sucker punch, wasn't it, just at the right time?