donald trump 4 prez

**Frownland** · 11-28-2016, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

hahahahahahahahaha

College graduates?! They don't know shit.

They know how to take tests.

Zhanteimi · 11-28-2016, 03:26 PM

They also know how to color.

**Frownland** · 11-28-2016, 03:27 PM

They did the same thing for retirement homes when Obama won.

Zhanteimi · 11-28-2016, 03:35 PM

Key · 11-28-2016, 03:53 PM

The thing is, I've had to accept the fact that Hillary ran a god awful campaign. You can disagree all you want, but it's actually disappointing that the Democratic party decided it was better to constantly **** on Trump while Trump was out campaigning for his win. Hillary rarely ever put forward why she would be the better choice. A lot of her stand was "We can't let a man who runs a bad campaign win", which was her fall in the long run.

Plus, not to mention the dems decided to pull Bernie away and give us a worse candidate.

Trollheart · 11-28-2016, 04:00 PM

From what admittedly little I know of it, it seems the Dems were too arrogant, assuming they had it in the bag. It's kind of like the football team from the third division who thinks they have no hope against the Premier League guys (Americanise this however you wish) and the PL team don't even train, go on holidays, sleep till noon then turn up expecting to yawn their way through a 6-0 victory, and are taken apart by the minnows in a "dramatic upset that nobody could see coming!"

Yeah well, if you don't even try, then you don't deserve to win, and I think a lot of people saw zero effort from the Brutal Overlord Clin-Ton, so decided **** you I'll vote for Trump, who, whatever you think of him, was campaigning all the hours Satan sends, and everywhere he could, esp traditional Dem states and cities. One of the reasons why there were so many upsets, no?

Key · 11-28-2016, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

From what admittedly little I know of it, it seems the Dems were too arrogant, assuming they had it in the bag. It's kind of like the football team from the third division who thinks they have no hope against the Premier League guys (Americanise this however you wish) and the PL team don't even train, go on holidays, sleep till noon then turn up expecting to yawn their way through a 6-0 victory, and are taken apart by the minnows in a "dramatic upset that nobody could see coming!"

Yeah well, if you don't even try, then you don't deserve to win, and I think a lot of people saw zero effort from the Brutal Overlord Clin-Ton, so decided **** you I'll vote for Trump, who, whatever you think of him, was campaigning all the hours Satan sends, and everywhere he could, esp traditional Dem states and cities. One of the reasons why there were so many upsets, no?

I agree with everything you said here. Whether people believe it or not, Trump was constantly getting people on his side with his "saying things nobody else says" demeanor, and unfortunately that worked for a large part of this country. The end result is pretty self explanatory:

Election 2016 - Live Results - President Map

It's fairly obvious that Clinton relied on people to vote instead of getting out and ensuring people will vote, hence why Trump gained so many states, and even some previously blue states.

Chula Vista · 11-28-2016, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Said the Hillary supporter

. I wonder if he would've refused to interview her.

BS. Who has the 22 year history of experience and actually getting **** done? Read her ****ing resume some time dumb-ass before you just write her off.

Did she race bait during the election? Did she religion bate during the election? Does she have a questionable racist past? Did she play to angry Wonder Bread Racist White America during the election.

Stop playing ignorance when it comes to this discussion. It's already grown old and stale.

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Over her decades-long career in public service, Hillary Clinton has taken on her share of tough fights. Here are just a few of the biggest things she’s accomplished.

1. Fought for children and families for 40 years and counting.

After law school, Hillary could have gone to work for a prestigious law firm, but took a job at the Children’s Defense Fund. She worked with teenagers incarcerated in adult prisons in South Carolina and families with disabled children in Massachusetts. It sparked a lifelong passion for helping children live up to their potential.

2. Helped provide millions of children with health care.

As first lady of the United States, Hillary fought to help pass health care reform. When that effort failed, she didn’t give up: Hillary worked with Republicans and Democrats to help create the Children’s Health Insurance Program. CHIP cut the uninsured rate of American children by half, and today it provides health care to more than 8 million kids.

3. Helped get 9/11 first responders the health care they needed.

When terrorists attacked just months after Hillary became U.S. senator from New York, she worked to make sure the 9/11 first responders who suffered lasting health effects from their time at Ground Zero got the care they needed.

4. Told the world that “women’s rights are human rights.”

Standing in front of a U.N. conference and declaring that “women’s rights are human rights” was more controversial than it sounds today. Many within the U.S. government didn’t want Hillary to go to Beijing. Others wanted her to pick a less polarizing topic (you say polarizing, we say half the population). But Hillary was determined to speak out about human rights abuses, and her message became a rallying cry for a generation.

5. Stood up for LGBT rights at home and abroad.

As secretary of state, Hillary made LGBT rights a focus of U.S. foreign policy. She lobbied for the first-ever U.N. Human Rights Council resolution on human rights and declared that “gay rights are human rights.” And here at home, she made the State Department a better, fairer place for LGBT employees to work.

6. Helped expand health care and family leave for military families.

Hillary worked across the aisle to expand health care access for members of the National Guard and reservists—making sure those who served and their families had access to health care when they returned home. And she worked to expand the Family Medical Leave Act, allowing families of those wounded in service to their country to take leave in order to care for their loved ones.

7. Negotiated a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.

As our nation’s chief diplomat, Hillary didn’t back down when the stakes were high. As Hamas rockets rained down on Israel, Hillary went to the region immediately. Twenty-four hours after she landed, a ceasefire went into effect—and that year became Israel’s quietest in a decade.

8. Negotiated the toughest sanctions Iran has ever faced.

As Iran was working to develop nuclear weapon, Hillary was instrumental in persuading Russia, China, and nine other U.N. Security Council countries to impose the toughest sanctions in Iran’s history. Former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta called it “a remarkable effort—and it paid off.”

**Frownland** · 11-28-2016, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki

The thing is, I've had to accept the fact that Hillary ran a god awful campaign. You can disagree all you want, but it's actually disappointing that the Democratic party decided it was better to constantly **** on Trump while Trump was out campaigning for his win. Hillary rarely ever put forward why she would be the better choice. A lot of her stand was "We can't let a man who runs a bad campaign win", which was her fall in the long run.

Plus, not to mention the dems decided to pull Bernie away and give us a worse candidate.

Key · 11-28-2016, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I'm not denying you were right, but people come to realizations at different times. Am I still ok with voting for her? Of course. I had to really consider the pros and cons, and the pros outweighed the cons. If I had the choice, would I have voted for Johnson or Stein or Bernie? Probably not.

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11-28-2016, 04:00 PM	#4626 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	From what admittedly little I know of it, it seems the Dems were too arrogant, assuming they had it in the bag. It's kind of like the football team from the third division who thinks they have no hope against the Premier League guys (Americanise this however you wish) and the PL team don't even train, go on holidays, sleep till noon then turn up expecting to yawn their way through a 6-0 victory, and are taken apart by the minnows in a "dramatic upset that nobody could see coming!" Yeah well, if you don't even try, then you don't deserve to win, and I think a lot of people saw zero effort from the Brutal Overlord Clin-Ton, so decided **** you I'll vote for Trump, who, whatever you think of him, was campaigning all the hours Satan sends, and everywhere he could, esp traditional Dem states and cities. One of the reasons why there were so many upsets, no? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

11-28-2016, 03:53 PM	#4625 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	The thing is, I've had to accept the fact that Hillary ran a god awful campaign. You can disagree all you want, but it's actually disappointing that the Democratic party decided it was better to constantly **** on Trump while Trump was out campaigning for his win. Hillary rarely ever put forward why she would be the better choice. A lot of her stand was "We can't let a man who runs a bad campaign win", which was her fall in the long run. Plus, not to mention the dems decided to pull Bernie away and give us a worse candidate.