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Trollheart · 11-28-2016, 11:09 AM

Um, just a dumb question: how long do your polling stations stay open? Because although nobody cares about an Irish election, we don't get the day off either, but they're open from 7 am to 10 pm. Ain't nobody works those kind of hours. So you either vote on your way into work or when you finish. Why does this not apply in the Land of Opportunity?

Key · 11-28-2016, 11:10 AM

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Um, just a dumb question: how long do your polling stations stay open? Because although nobody cares about an Irish election, we don't get the day off either, but they're open from 7 am to 10 pm. Ain't nobody works those kind of hours. So you either vote on your way into work or when you finish. Why does this not apply in the Land of Opportunity?

I'm not sure since I always do a mail-in vote. I imagine they're open all day or right before the election process is aired on the news.

Trollheart · 11-28-2016, 11:13 AM

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I'm not sure since I always do a mail-in vote. I imagine they're open all day or right before the election process is aired on the news.

I was just looking at your "people can't get off work to vote" assertion, and wondering how that worked. When I did work, and there was an election, workmates would always say "did you vote/are you voting/don't forget to vote", so it was always seen as important, and I'm sure if someone genuinely needed an hour or so off to go vote then they would have been allowed to do so.

Key · 11-28-2016, 11:15 AM

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I was just looking at your "people can't get off work to vote" assertion, and wondering how that worked. When I did work, and there was an election, workmates would always say "did you vote/are you voting/don't forget to vote", so it was always seen as important, and I'm sure if someone genuinely needed an hour or so off to go vote then they would have been allowed to do so.

Well, I was mostly basing it off my old job where if you needed even 5 minutes to yourself, you'd get yelled at for it or get told "you should've done it sooner."

Trollheart · 11-28-2016, 11:21 AM

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Well, I was mostly basing it off my old job where if you needed even 5 minutes to yourself, you'd get yelled at for it or get told "you should've done it sooner."

Right. But that, as you say yourself, is probably an isolated attitude. Maybe. I would assume that most employers would go out of their way to ensure their employees had the opportunity to vote, if for no other reason so as not to be accused of suppressing their voting rights. Unless they had some ulterior motive I guess. Even then, I imagine it would be hard to implement such a policy and maybe even lead to a rash of "sick days" every four years?

Key · 11-28-2016, 11:22 AM

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Right. But that, as you say yourself, is probably an isolated attitude. Maybe. I would assume that most employers would go out of their way to ensure their employees had the opportunity to vote, if for no other reason so as not to be accused of suppressing their voting rights. Unless they had some ulterior motive I guess. Even then, I imagine it would be hard to implement such a policy and maybe even lead to a rash of "sick days" every four years?

Yeah, but why should we have other holidays that give you a day off for no other reason than to just sit at home, when one could be replaced with a day that gets people out and about to help the country? I understand where you're coming from, but a lot of people just don't bother because they work.

Trollheart · 11-28-2016, 11:24 AM

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Yeah, but why should we have other holidays that give you a day off for no other reason than to just sit at home, when one could be replaced with a day that gets people out and about to help the country? I understand where you're coming from, but a lot of people just don't bother because they work.

This is true. Then again, people could take the day out of their holidays, if they were that bothered, could they not? Plenty of notice beforehand, that's for sure.

Key · 11-28-2016, 11:29 AM

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This is true. Then again, people could take the day out of their holidays, if they were that bothered, could they not? Plenty of notice beforehand, that's for sure.

They could, but I'm more talking about having a day that has a purpose over a day that could have purpose, if that makes sense.

Trollheart · 11-28-2016, 11:32 AM

The only issue I see there is this: if you make it a national holiday, certain people still have to work (polling staff, counters, police etc) so do you pay them extra to induce them to work, or do you say "it's a holiday, but not for you."?

**Frownland** · 11-28-2016, 11:34 AM

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The only issue I see there is this: if you make it a national holiday, certain people still have to work (polling staff, counters, police etc) so do you pay them extra to induce them to work, or do you say "it's a holiday, but not for you."?

There aren't any federal requirements for being paid extra on a national holiday, no. The kind of jobs that would still be running would be people who kind of expect the possibility of not getting holidays off though.

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Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Um, just a dumb question: how long do your polling stations stay open? Because although nobody cares about an Irish election, we don't get the day off either, but they're open from 7 am to 10 pm. Ain't nobody works those kind of hours. So you either vote on your way into work or when you finish. Why does this not apply in the Land of Opportunity? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

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Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	The only issue I see there is this: if you make it a national holiday, certain people still have to work (polling staff, counters, police etc) so do you pay them extra to induce them to work, or do you say "it's a holiday, but not for you."? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018