Frownland

The majority of her thoughts on immigration. Also her rich lady voice/laughing at her own jokes. I had a professor who did that **** (might as well note that she was topically ridiculous in the other direction at times). We have surveys at the end of the year where we anonymously rate the course and professor, and on mine the only comment I put was 'it is obnoxious as **** to laugh at every single one of your own jokes'.

@the Rollins comment, I'm not sure I can trust you if you find that lady more entertaining than Black Flag.

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John Wilkes Booth

oh. yea i'd say she is. i think i've hinted at this before, but the right are banking on the current xenophobic/racist sentiments that many conservative americans still express... it's a now or never issue for them. the demographics are only going to continue to change against their interests.. basically the left acknowledged this last time we had a presidential election, even npr was talking about how the conservatives can't bank on anti immigration rhetoric as the demographics continue to change in a way that is going to make that a bad strategy... i guess ann & trump (and probably palin and cruz as well) figure that they have a better shot at stirring up the current xenophobia and anti-illegal immigrant sentiments and getting their base riled up enough to get themselves in and maybe reverse/do something about said demographic trends than they do at actually flipping their image and 'pursuing the latino vote' by playing it soft on immigration.

...say, guys, when trump gets elected, am i going to get some sort of prize for calling this **** before any of you mouth breathers?

John Wilkes Booth

i find her trolling entertaining... usually i take it in via youtube in small doses... she can get boring after a while... sort of like bacon

plus she's better looking than him

plus punk rock is ****

E5I5O

I'll bet she is.... even Henry Rollins would say so

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You edit bitch, you changed that. And you know why.

John Wilkes Booth

no idea what isisbeard is talking about

William_the_Bloody

Granted I would never bother to read anything by Ann Coulter let alone listen to her speak, but I must take issue with your comment on relying on the racist xenophobic sentiment within the republican party.

Your country has been having historic high rates of immigration for the last two decades, so if 77% of the Republican base happen to be deeply concerned about immigration, than I think that it's just natural.

The left always likes to frame immigration within the context of cultural diversity, which I can sympathize with, but unfortunately unlike say abortion or gay marriage, the issue is not soley cultural, but rather predominately economic.

There are several studies that show that unfettered immigration has an adverse effect of the wages of unskilled labor & the working class. So if it is a concern amongst many blue collar Republicans as well as a large % of democrats, than it may be warranted sentiment.

John Wilkes Booth

i've heard people on the left claim the opposite. i've be honest and say i don't know that much about the economics... so feel free to go ahead and share those studies with me.

but i stand by my comment on trump & co tapping into xenophobia. that's not the same as saying there's no legitimate issue to be had with immigration... i just know rabble rousing when i see it, i can tell it by its tone. so i'm calling a spade a spade.

i mean the basic picture that ann paints is that the democrats (specifically ted kennedy or whoever) passed an immigration bill in the 60's for the sole purpose of changing the racial demographics of the country because this would be favorable for democrats... she talks about how the left glorifies the 'browning of america,' and to a certain extent she's correct about that. but in pointing all of this out, clearly they are worried about more than just economics. we've been hearing 'warnings' about whites becoming a minority in this country for decades now. there's simply no way to spin that kind of rhetoric as being about working class jobs or economics... they're weary of demographic changes as well. once again, that's not to say that there aren't any economic concerns, and i'm open to hearing those. but it doesn't negate the cultural aspect of the issue.

same with me saying the leftist media takes a lot of trump's statements and disects them/amplifies them to broadcast the message that "trump calls illegal immigrants mostly rapists" or some **** like that... i see that as a dishonest media tactic, since that's really an exaggeration of the message he was attempting to send... even though at the same time i know trump was being purposely inflammatory and preying on xenophobic and racist sentiments.

John Wilkes Booth

also ann coulter >>>> john stewart, stephen colbert, & bill mahr combined

William_the_Bloody

I see, although I do not respect Coulter enough to read or listen to her opinions I am familiar with other conservative writers who touch on the cultural issue of immigration.

One could argue that the cultural aspect of immigration & race crosses over into economics when white people start worrying about being economically displaced by other ethnic groups. (A building contract going to a firm that employs cheaper Hispanic labour, a white guy not being called back for a return day on the job as a minority on a worksite ect. )

I imagine that would be the cultural fear that they are tapping into it, as I can't forsee people galvanizing together because they miss seeing Christmas lights in every neighborhood or classic rock being played at every bar, but I live in Canada not the States, so who knows.

If Ann Coulter thinks that the Democrats in the 60's passed the immigration bill because the browning of America would favor their party than she's an idiot. That is something a white supremacist like David Duke would believe.

I would however agree with other Conservatives like Rush Limbaugh that immigration from Mexico is primarily votes for the democratic party. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe that, you just have to look at the historic polling data. Traditionally immigrants tend to favor parties that are pro immigration, and welfare state because it suits their interests. The Irish & Italian were no different until they worked their way up the ladder.

I do to some extent understand what Ann is getting at though. There has been a concerted effort by the left to push multiculturalism and "mass" immigration through political correctness. When I was in University I had to take these elective courses on multiculturalism that made me examine my white privilege by unpacking my invisible white knapsack and identifying why Eurocentric films like Lord of the Rings were harmful in today's culturally diverse society. It was f'n weird $hit lol, but whatever, I just went along with it and got an A.

Again for me I don't really care about the cultural aspect of immigration. If someone said to me tomorrow that erasing the Mexican border will increase my life expectancy by 10 years and improve my retirement savings plan, I would be like fu(kin A, where do I sign up.

I don't have any links to provide you off hand, but there is a lot of evidence on the subject. My favourite liberal economist Paul Krugman wrote an article on immigration and the downward pressure of wages for unskilled labour a while back, should be easy to find on the net.

E5I5O

typical response