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The Batlord · 11-09-2016, 11:51 AM

So is Qwerty becoming Lil' Goofle?

**Frownland** · 11-09-2016, 11:51 AM

Interesting. I find fact based reporting to be compelling.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 11-09-2016, 11:51 AM

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I definitely agree with that, but I think that quote comes from a place of respect for journalism. There's a spirit of it in his program, but LWT is definitely not an unbiased source of news information. That doesn't mean it isn't still informative, entertaining, and valuable in its own right for being able to cross the boundaries of news and entertainment in a way that is much more constructive than its predecessors.

But he only ever tells one side of the story and it's usually from a rather subjective point of view, which certainly doesn't align with the traditional values of journalism.

As Frown brought up, there's a lot of other clowns out there who don't deserve to be called journalists either.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 11-09-2016, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

So is Qwerty becoming Lil' Goofle?

I don't think so, I just have different political opinions than some of you. I think I side with Frown on politics more than I would with Goof or anyone else around here, he just posts so much that it's easier to find stuff we disagree about.

The Batlord · 11-09-2016, 11:53 AM

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But he only ever tells one side of the story and it's usually from a rather subjective point of view, which certainly doesn't align with the traditional values of journalism.

As Frown brought up, there's a lot of other clowns out there who don't deserve to be called journalists either.

Should journalists be impartial when it comes to the Ku Klux Klan? So long as they're not being dishonest with their reporting then bias can be perfectly fine and respectable.

Paedantic Basterd · 11-09-2016, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

But he only ever tells one side of the story and it's usually from a rather subjective point of view, which certainly doesn't align with the traditional values of journalism.

As Frown brought up, there's a lot of other clowns out there who don't deserve to be called journalists either.

Right, because it's not journalism. It's a TV show centered on comedy and social welfare.

Chula Vista · 11-09-2016, 11:54 AM

Let's just scrap the word journalist all together. Every stinking one of them on the tube are partisan talking heads. They all deal with varying amounts of hyperbole. Oliver is definitely well down on that scale though. Hannity and O'Reilly just blatantly make **** up all the time.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 11-09-2016, 11:57 AM

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Should journalists be impartial when it comes to the Ku Klux Klan? So long as they're not being dishonest with their reporting then bias can be perfectly fine and respectable.

It depends on what you look for in your reports. Do you want something that's unbiased and honest, or something that may input the writers opinion in order to add entertainment. We live in a time where not only do people prefer the entertainment aspect, but the unbiased side is genuinely becoming hard to find.

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Let's just scrap the word journalist all together. Every stinking one of them on the tube are partisan talking heads. They all deal with varying amounts of hyperbole. Oliver is definitely well down on that scale though. Hannity and O'Reilly just blatantly make **** up all the time.

Agreed. All you need to be called a journalist now is a YouTube channel or a Twitter account.

The Batlord · 11-09-2016, 11:58 AM

Like I said, the issue with partisan reporting isn't so much the bias as it is being dishonest and underhandedly manipulative. All people are biased, so expecting reporting to be unbiased is absurd, and journalism is a platform to inform and shape narratives, so not doing so when it's important is missing an opportunity.

**Frownland** · 11-09-2016, 11:59 AM

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Right, because it's not journalism. It's a TV show centered on comedy and social welfare.

Idunno, comedy coming first doesn't negate the journalistic qualities of the show. Buzz Adrin will be the first to tell you that coming second doesn't make you irrelevant. I've yet to see misinformation on LWT.

Also, Oliver makes it very clear where he's kidding and where he's reporting.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Interesting. I find fact based reporting to be compelling. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Let's just scrap the word journalist all together. Every stinking one of them on the tube are partisan talking heads. They all deal with varying amounts of hyperbole. Oliver is definitely well down on that scale though. Hannity and O'Reilly just blatantly make **** up all the time. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”