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The Batlord · 10-27-2016, 03:50 PM

You know your political system is ass when you find yourself agreeing with Varg Vikernes more than you're comfortable with, even if he's not saying much you don't already know. But I'll post the video anyway cause we all need more Varg in our lives.

**Frownland** · 10-27-2016, 03:52 PM

First couple of minutes was cool but the rest was just too repetitive.

Lucem Ferre · 10-27-2016, 03:57 PM

You know that makes you pretentious now too!

But this isn't a democracy, it's a representative democracy, aka a republic.

The Batlord · 10-27-2016, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

First couple of minutes was cool but the rest was just too repetitive.

Yeah, he tends to repeat himself, but I just like listening to him talk. And his beard looks like the beard I used to have until a few days ago. We were like brothers who have become estranged because one of them is a Nazi who lives in the woods preparing for the fall of civilization.

But he's pretty interesting when he's talking about his black metal days, which I assume is what he does when he's worrying about his view count. Until he (hopefully) writes an autobiography, I don't think you'll get this level of detail from him. Just, you know, take him with a grain of salt. Cause he's Varg.

Oh, and if you press the left arrow key when playing a Youtube video it sends it back five seconds, and if you do this right at the beginning you can make a Varg remix. Try it. It's addictive.

Chula Vista · 10-27-2016, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Also, sorry for spamming this, but correct me if I'm wrong but didn't George Bush pass the most gun restrictions in history after 9/11?

He talked a big game but didn't follow through on most of it and actually sign any legislation.

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Despite a cloudy picture on his overall stance on gun rights, the lasting legacy of the Bush administration will be his appointments to the U.S. Supreme Court. John Roberts was nominated by Bush to replace William Rehnquist in 2005. Later that same year, Bush nominated Samuel Alito to replace Sandra Day O’Connor on the high court.

Three years later, the court took up arguments in District of Columbia v. Heller, a critical case revolving around the District’s 25-year handgun ban. In a landmark ruling, the court knocked down the ban as unconstitutional and ruled for the first time that the Second Amendment applies to individuals, providing a right to own guns for self-defense inside the home. Both Roberts and Alito ruled with the majority in a narrow 5-4 decision.

Just 12 months after the Heller decision, another monumental gun rights case made its way before the court. In McDonald v. Chicago, the court struck down a gun ban in the city of Chicago as unconstitutional, ruling for the first time that the gun owner protections of the Second Amendment apply to states as well as to the federal government. Again, Roberts and Alito sided with the majority in a 5-4 decision.

The 2 cases cited in the quote led to the floodgates opening up for gun ownership and the loosening of restrictions. Talk to any gun nut about sensible gun control and they'll use DC v Heller like Captain America's shield in defense.

The Supreme Court is the most important issue in this years election. There's already one open seat and possibly another two that could open up within the next 4-8 years.

Chula Vista · 10-27-2016, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Maybe I'm assuming it was part of his campaign because I knew he supported it.

No maybe's about it. You made a completely false statement about Romney and Republicans. So much for your political cred.

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No, I presented what Shapiro had to say about it, and you ignored it.

You said, "I'm stating facts and you guys are ignoring them". Again, your cred takes a direct hit.

The Batlord · 10-27-2016, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

No maybe's about it. You made a completely false statement about Romney and Republicans. So much for your political cred.

You said, "I'm stating facts and you guys are ignoring them". Again, your cred takes a direct hit.

And so, children, we see the working class male's preoccupation with "cred". Please don't tap on the glass.

Chula Vista · 10-27-2016, 05:35 PM

Lucem Ferre · 10-27-2016, 07:01 PM

But they did support it when he did it locally. The whole point of me bringing it up in the first place was your false statement of Republicans not wanting any new laws. Bam, new law from Romney. Point proven.

I did state facts. Two Republicans that do want gun control laws when you said they don't. Your only response is cases where they turned down out right gun bans. If you don't know the difference between gun control and gun bans maybe it's not my credentials that are in the dumps.

Chula Vista · 10-27-2016, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

But they did support it when he did it locally. The whole point of me bringing it up in the first place was your false statement of Republicans not wanting any new laws. Bam, new law from Romney. Point proven.

You really are dense. I said new laws in regard to gun control. Stop moving the goalposts.

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I did state facts. Two Republicans that do want gun control laws when you said they don't. Your only response is cases where they turned down out right gun bans

Republicans as a whole are against these as a partial example:

- expanding background checks
- limits on magazine capacity
- closing the gun show loopholes
- waiting periods when purchasing a gun
- restrictions on open or concealed carry
- restrictions on silencers
- having to notify authorities when transferring ownership of a firearm

And your Bush example was completely debunked by me. Try again.

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10-27-2016, 03:52 PM	#3872 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	First couple of minutes was cool but the rest was just too repetitive. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

10-27-2016, 05:35 PM	#3878 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	__________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

10-27-2016, 03:57 PM	#3873 (permalink)
Lucem Ferre Cuter Than Post Malone. Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 4,978	You know that makes you pretentious now too! But this isn't a democracy, it's a representative democracy, aka a republic.

10-27-2016, 07:01 PM	#3879 (permalink)
Lucem Ferre Cuter Than Post Malone. Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 4,978	But they did support it when he did it locally. The whole point of me bringing it up in the first place was your false statement of Republicans not wanting any new laws. Bam, new law from Romney. Point proven. I did state facts. Two Republicans that do want gun control laws when you said they don't. Your only response is cases where they turned down out right gun bans. If you don't know the difference between gun control and gun bans maybe it's not my credentials that are in the dumps.