The Batlord

Wait, you didn't know I was the guy you've been watching stream, or talking to on Skype?

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Lucem Ferre

I didn't know your name was Charles.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard

Charles is the best worst name ever.

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The Batlord

I'll bet you're not even a real king.

It's regal, bitch.

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Chula Vista

Bull****. You're just plain wrong. Republicans want the current laws on the books enforced but don't want even a single new law because they believe in the slippery slope theory that any new laws will lead to the government taking away their guns.

And f you are talking about classical liberalism then your argument is badly out of date. The liberal movement of my lifetime are always for more gun control. Find me a source from the modern era that backs up your claim that true liberals DO NOT want gun control or stricter gun laws. I'll wait right here and be ready to toss back at you dozens of sources that back p the realities of the modern liberal.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Lucem Ferre

You have a sadly over simplistic view of Republicans that is flat out untrue. Off the top of my head the stand your ground law. Another thing that my surprise you is the healthcare mandate. That idea was created by Mitt Romney and then STRONGLY supported by the Republicans until it was put into Obamacare, that's when it became unconstitutional all of a sudden.

Just because the media pushes this ill-informed definition of what a Liberal is doesn't mean that it's what a Liberal is. Really, it's just dumb ass Democrats and "progressives" calling themselves Liberal because Liberals support social justice. Oh, and it's cooler to claim you don't align with the mainstream parties even though you still vote for the mainstream candidates... You just can't call yourself liberal if you want gun control. It's contradictory to the core of Liberal/Libertarian ideals; our personal liberties.

And I refuse to accept the drastic redefinition of Liberals over our lazy ill-informed public.

Chula Vista

First off we're talking about guns and gun control here. Good read here:

Civil Liberties or Gun Control? - Reason.com

Liberals have evolved when it comes to looking at civil liberties and gun control. They've decided that it's ok not to think of them as interconnected. You may not like it but that's the way it's been for decades.

As far as Republicans go all you need to do is look at what happened in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre. (20 first and second grade kids along with 6 teachers slaughtered by a mentally unstable 20 year old using an assault weapon).

An assault weapons ban was proposed in Congress a month later but was voted down. 173 out of 188 democrats voted for it. 246 out of 247 republicans voted against it. Why, because of their respective democratic and republican constituents.

Again, you may not like it but that's what America is at the moment, and again, has been for quite a while now.

Pontificate all you want but it doesn't change reality.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Lucem Ferre

Actually, I have never heard Liberals being lumped together with Democrats until recently. As in the last few years. Not last election. Definitely not last election.

Republicans don't want gun laws changed much, that's true. Does not mean they are against any new laws. In fact, you'd be surprised to find out that Republicans do want to make it harder for people to get the guns. They just don't want a gun ban. I know this, because I have listened to republican talking points. Specifically what Ben Shapiro had to say about gun laws.



Here listen to Ben Shapiro, my favorite Republican jew that I disagree with just about everything with, absolutely destroy Pierce Morgan.

I hate what America has been for a long time. Both the Republicans claiming that Obama wants our guns despite the only laws he put forth taking away restrictions and the Democrats that think Republicans are a bunch of gun loving trigger happy hill billy's. I say this again, they are playing you like a fiddle.

Chula Vista

I've lost track, do you live in the US? Liberals have been interchangeable with Democrats here for at least the last 35 years. Poll 1000 people and 998 with say that they are the same thing.



Sorry, but you are miss-informed on this. See my previous post. Just one of many, many examples.

Not me, the masses. I stay ridiculously informed during these elections. Re: The masses, name a country that doesn't get played by their politicians and political establishments. You should stop pointing at the reality of things here in the US as some sort of aberration.

Every election cycle I have 2 options.

1. Vote for the person I'd really like to see get elected.
2. Vote against the person who I do not want to see get elected.

I threw out the option of apathy decades ago.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Lucem Ferre

Yes, I live in America, no I haven't seen that until recently. Either way, the American public is stupid. What the American public thinks does not equal the truth.

I am obviously more informed than you are on this. I know they are against the banning of semi-automatic rifles. That does not mean they are against any new laws.

I'm guessing you didn't watch the Shapiro video to get the actual Republican perspective. So, I guess you don't really stay ridiculously informed during elections. Reading through these bull**** articles that spend more time on bashing Republicans than giving the actual facts and perspectives of Republicans does not make you informed. Cherry picking facts to fit the notes your fiddle player plays does not make you informed either.

I couldn't point to that country and I couldn't point out a time in American history where we weren't played like a fiddle, doesn't mean I'm going to stop telling the fiddles when they are being played. It's fun, because nobody likes knowing that they are a fiddle.

Yeah, you gave up your vote to your fiddle player, I get it. It's nothing to brag about.