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**Frownland** · 10-21-2016, 02:08 PM

What if the baby grew up to be suicidal? Wouldn't you be doing it a favour?

Lucem Ferre · 10-21-2016, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

It is clear cut and dry. They want smaller government and for government to not get involved but when it is a woman's body. **** that **** right?

That's assuming that pro-life=Republican/Conservative.

The Batlord · 10-21-2016, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

It is clear cut and dry. They want smaller government and for government to not get involved but when it is a woman's body. **** that **** right?

It's not clear cut since murder trumps a woman's rights to her body.

Lucem Ferre · 10-21-2016, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

What if the baby grew up to be suicidal? Wouldn't you be doing it a favour?

That's a lazy argument, because it could work for pro-lifer's too. "What if that baby was the next Ghandi or Martin Luther King Jr." Plus, a lot of people were suicidal at one point or another and a lot of people grow out of it. It's also insinuating that the world would have been better with out Robin Williams and I'll be damned if you want to spit on people's childhoods like that.

**Frownland** · 10-21-2016, 02:14 PM

I guess you're damned.

Lucem Ferre · 10-21-2016, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I guess you're damned.

You're some kind of spongey monster!

The Batlord · 10-21-2016, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

That's a lazy argument, because it could work for pro-lifer's too. "What if that baby was the next Ghandi or Martin Luther King Jr." Plus, a lot of people were suicidal at one point or another and a lot of people grow out of it. It's also insinuating that the world would have been better with out Robin Williams and I'll be damned if you want to spit on people's childhoods like that.

That's the one pro-life argument that I can sympathize with. I imagine if you ask 99% of people if they'd rather not have been born then they would probably respond in the negative. A fetus can't have preferences, and restricting a woman's rights based on time travel doesn't make sense, but even if only from an emotional standpoint it's still not entirely irrelevant.

Nine months of not wanting to be pregnant, followed by a lifetime of potential regret for whatever choice the woman makes (keeping the kid or putting them up for adoption), along with whatever **** also befalls the woman, doesn't really trump a person's feelings about not wanting to be dead. Again though, time travel, but still.

djchameleon · 10-21-2016, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

What if the baby grew up to be suicidal? Wouldn't you be doing it a favour?

What if the mother was raped and forced to have the baby and ends up killing herself because she has to see the face of her rapist in the child everyday?

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

That's assuming that pro-life=Republican/Conservative.

Pro-life stance is typically a Republican's stance on the abortion issue

Lucem Ferre · 10-21-2016, 02:40 PM

Yes. Republican/Conservatives are pro-life but pro-lifers are not Republican/Conservative. You'd be surprised how complex views can get from the status quo that gets engraved in our brains. Then again, it's a little more work to think of humans as humans with out slapping a label on them to dehumanize each other.

**Goofle** · 10-22-2016, 06:16 AM

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10-21-2016, 02:08 PM	#3731 (permalink)
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10-21-2016, 02:14 PM	#3735 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I guess you're damned. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

10-21-2016, 02:40 PM	#3739 (permalink)
Lucem Ferre Cuter Than Post Malone. Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 4,978	Yes. Republican/Conservatives are pro-life but pro-lifers are not Republican/Conservative. You'd be surprised how complex views can get from the status quo that gets engraved in our brains. Then again, it's a little more work to think of humans as humans with out slapping a label on them to dehumanize each other.