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Old 09-30-2016, 12:35 PM   #3011 (permalink)
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Also, I don't agree that anything Trump has said is racist. That's a whole can of worms though, as it's a pet peeve of mine that people so readily interpret all sorts of stuff as racist, sexist/misogynistic, etc.
I'm a little bit confused by this statement as being a racist / sexist is pretty easy to spot. Donald Trump has been called out multiple times for displaying this type of behavior. Do you not consider him a racist or homophobe or sexist?
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Old 09-30-2016, 12:52 PM   #3012 (permalink)
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Every true liberal should side with Trump over Hillary. He's not started, pushed for or caused wars. He's not been part of maintaining the welfare state which has helped to ruin the economy and create more poor people than ever. He's not calling everyone racist, sexists and homophobes for simply disagreeing with something, or perhaps saying the "wrong" thing once. He's not risked national security (lets agree to have differing views on what exactly Hillary has done regarding the emails). He promotes individual prosperity and responsibility. He doesn't want to raise your taxes, which would inevitably go towards a growth of the welfare state and military industrial complex.

He's a loud mouth, but his ideas are still more sensible than Chaiman Hillary.
Hillarys tax plan would actually lower my taxes more substantially than trumps plan. Any single person without dependents would pay less on their first 125k in any fiscal year. For couples it goes up to $250k. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. Do you even have a job goofle?
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Old 09-30-2016, 12:53 PM   #3013 (permalink)
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Hillarys tax plan would actually lower my taxes more substantially than trumps plan. Any single person without dependents would pay less on their first 125k in any fiscal year. For couples it goes up to $250k. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. Do you even have a job goofle?
It's not worth arguing about it. Anybody that supports Trump in regards to business strategies and taxes is not a person you can trust.
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Old 09-30-2016, 01:03 PM   #3014 (permalink)
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Yeah. I'm honestly lost at how someone, like Chula, can say her ass smells like roses.
For the 10 millionth time, I've never said this. Just sick of all of the hyperbole that's used when she comes up. Calling her the single most corrupt politician ever for example. Harping on her Foundation even though it gets high marks from independent non-profit charity watchdog groups is another. She gets all the blame for the uranium deal with Russia even though this:

Donald Trump inaccurately suggests Clinton got paid to approve Russia uranium deal | PolitiFact

She's a career politician so by default she's not very sincere or honest, but she's nowhere near as bad as many would have you think.
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She's a career politician so by default she's not very sincere or honest, but she's nowhere near as bad as many would have you think.
I've had to swallow my pride and come to this realization. I've looked into her and she's not nearly as bad as I once thought. I have no problem pushing my vote towards her.
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I'm a little bit confused by this statement as being a racist / sexist is pretty easy to spot. Donald Trump has been called out multiple times for displaying this type of behavior. Do you not consider him a racist or homophobe or sexist?
A requirement for being racist is that one considers an entire race (or "race") inferior or superior, simply by virtue of the possession of characteristics that one believes to be inherent in that race, characteristics that one believes to be different than at least some other races, and it usually involves discrimination on the basis of that belief.

I do not have any evidence that Trump is a racist, homophobe, etc., no.
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For the 10 millionth time, I've never said this. Just sick of all of the hyperbole that's used when she comes up. Calling her the single most corrupt politician ever for example. Harping on her Foundation even though it gets high marks from independent non-profit charity watchdog groups is another. She gets all the blame for the uranium deal with Russia even though this:

Donald Trump inaccurately suggests Clinton got paid to approve Russia uranium deal | PolitiFact

She's a career politician so by default she's not very sincere or honest, but she's nowhere near as bad as many would have you think.
Thank you for proving my point.
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For the 10 millionth time, I've never said this. Just sick of all of the hyperbole that's used when she comes up. Calling her the single most corrupt politician ever for example. Harping on her Foundation even though it gets high marks from independent non-profit charity watchdog groups is another. She gets all the blame for the uranium deal with Russia even though this:

Donald Trump inaccurately suggests Clinton got paid to approve Russia uranium deal | PolitiFact

She's a career politician so by default she's not very sincere or honest, but she's nowhere near as bad as many would have you think.
If you don't really like her then why does it bother you? Shouldn't you just be indifferent?
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I do not have any evidence that Trump is a racist, homophobe, etc., no.
Interesting. A large number would disagree but you're entitled to believe what you want.
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I think that a lot of Trump's statements are not racist when you look at it on the surface. However, they're pretty easy statements to think up when you're racist.
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