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Old 09-27-2016, 06:57 PM   #2851 (permalink)
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Oh how ironic the bolded is.

"I think that 11 failed business ventures out of hundreds is pretty ****ing solid. You don't have to agree with him on policy to accept this."

Let's see. If I were a business and I was looking for potential employers or managers the last thing I would do is hire someone known for multiple bankruptcies. But in your opinion, that's a successful strategy. I don't buy it.
11 failures/500 = 500 failures
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11 failures/500 = 500 failures
= 11 failures.

Stop looking further into something that makes no sense.

He's not a successful businessman if he has multiple bankruptcies in his record. He has tried multiple strategies, and each one has ended up in him or the company losing money. If that's what success looks like to you, then I feel sorry for whatever business you end up being in charge of in your later years.
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11 failures/500 = 489 successes

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11 failures/500 = 489 successes

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So if for example I raise 5 business from the ground up, and 4 of them go bankrupt, am I successful?
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He's not a successful businessman if he has multiple bankruptcies in his record.
You absolutely can be.

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He has tried multiple strategies, and each one has ended up in him or the company losing money.
Not from what I've read but whatever.

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If that's what success looks like to you, then I feel sorry for whatever business you end up being in charge of in your later years.
I think it's best to judge someone as a whole instead of narrowing down on their failures then defining them by them.

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So if for example I raise 5 business from the ground up, and 4 of them go bankrupt, am I successful?
Let's make it closer to Trump's number and say that 1 out of 5 goes bankrupt. That leaves you with 4 successful businesses. That sounds pretty damned successful to me.
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I think it's best to judge someone as a whole instead of narrowing down on their failures then defining them by them.
This would certainly be true if he didn't continue to make himself look like a liar and a failure.

Even during his speech he admitted that not paying his taxes makes him smart while simultaneously not admitting that he doesn't pay taxes. You know why? Because he doesn't want people to believe that he's no longer wealthy.

He brings up examples of business that make absolutely no sense, and yet that still makes him a success.

I'm going to define him by what I see from him in a political sense, and not as a human being, which both aren't too far from the other, and he's failing at that too. Whether the polls agree with me is another figure in itself.
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See, now you're just rooting off into something irrelevant to prove your point. We're not talking about other business figures, you asked me a specific question regarding Trump. Bringing Bill Gates into it makes 0 sense.
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This would certainly be true if he didn't continue to make himself look like a liar and a failure.
No, that's how I roll regardless of who I'm looking at.

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Even during his speech he admitted that not paying his taxes makes him smart while simultaneously not admitting that he doesn't pay taxes. You know why? Because he doesn't want people to believe that he's no longer wealthy.
Tax evasion=broke? Absolutely not.

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He brings up examples of business that make absolutely no sense, and yet that still makes him a success.
Good for him? Idunno, I'm looking at his business skills, not businesses that he's cited.

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With the coverage from this election, this is a very bad idea.

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Bringing Bill Gates into it makes 0 sense.
It does for me because I'm not holding Donald Trump to any special standard just because I don't like him. But I guess it helps that you think it makes zero sense because I'm parroting your logic.
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No, that's how I roll regardless of who I'm looking at.
Than that's your own fault.


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Tax evasion=broke? Absolutely not.
What other reason does he have to avoid releasing his tax information? Please, inform me.

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Good for him? Idunno, I'm looking at his business skills, not businesses that he's cited.
This makes no sense. Read it again and try to comprehend what you just said.


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With the coverage from this election, this is a very bad idea.
So now live broadcasts aren't enough for you? What do you want me to do, go to a debate myself and write everything down and mail it to you? C'mon.


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It does for me because I'm not holding Donald Trump to any special standard just because I don't like him.
Than that tells me more about the kind of person you are. If you for a second think Donald Trump is any sort of a decent human being, there'll be a problem.
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