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Key · 09-30-2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I think that a lot of Trump's statements are not racist when you look at it on the surface. However, they're pretty easy statements to think up when you're racist.

Huffington Post would agree as well.

Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist | Huffington Post

Terrapin_Station · 09-30-2016, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I think that a lot of Trump's statements are not racist when you look at it on the surface. However, they're pretty easy statements to think up when you're racist.

Yeah, I'm not saying that he definitely isn't a racist, but there's not sufficient evidence (at least not that I'm familiar with) for saying that he is. One really needs to make pretty explicit statements about considering an entire "race" inferior/superior on the basis of characteristics endemic to that race on the whole.

Instead we get a bunch of moronic university students doing things like calling films racist because of the "racial" make-up of the cast.

**Frownland** · 09-30-2016, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

Yeah, I'm not saying that he definitely isn't a racist, but there's not sufficient evidence (at least not that I'm familiar with) for saying that he is. One really needs to make pretty explicit statements about considering an entire "race" inferior/superior on the basis of characteristics endemic to that race on the whole.

Instead we get a bunch of moronic university students doing things like calling films racist because of the "racial" make-up of the cast.

I disagree. There are many ways that you can be racist without flat out saying "I hate niggers." Of course there are people who use the term too lightly, but that in no way accounts more subversive forms of racism. Do you really think anyone in this day and age is dumb enough to explicitly oust themselves as racist?

Terrapin_Station · 09-30-2016, 01:19 PM

But just because someone who might have racist views is unlikely to be explicit about that (some people will still be explicit about it--look at Daniel Carver's comments on the Howard Stern Show for example), that doesn't enable calling statements racist just because they mention race (or ethnicity, etc.) in some way that also involves criticizing someone.

Key · 09-30-2016, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

But just because someone who might have racist views is unlikely to be explicit about that (some people will still be explicit about it--look at Daniel Carver's comments on the Howard Stern Show for example), that doesn't enable calling statements racist just because they mention race (or ethnicity, etc.) in some way that also involves criticizing someone.

Criticizing them for and based on their race is racism.

Terrapin_Station · 09-30-2016, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki

Criticizing them for and based on their race is racism.

See, this is part of the problem. Your reading comprehension sucks. I didn't say "criticising them for and based on their race." You need to be able to read and comprehend stuff more nuanced than Jack and Jill if you want to have a big boy conversation about this sort of stuff.

Key · 09-30-2016, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

See, this is part of the problem. Your reading comprehension sucks. I didn't say "criticising them for and based on their race."

I don't think you even read the article if you're telling me my reading comprehension sucks. I laid it out for you.

**Frownland** · 09-30-2016, 01:20 PM

Sourcepocalypse. This is all from the Post article or what?

Key · 09-30-2016, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Sourcepocalypse. This is all from the Post article or what?

Yes. I laid out examples.

**Frownland** · 09-30-2016, 01:22 PM

^Just making sure. Reads very biased.

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

If only Trump had said something resembling "She can't do her job simply becuse she's Mexican." (And with an implication that NO Mexican could do the job [i]simply because they're Mexican, whereas members of at least some other races could . . . . . also as if "Mexican" were a race, by the way, though we can pretend that everything is a "race" as the people who constantly cry "racism" do.)

Lol are you serious?

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09-30-2016, 01:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
Terrapin_Station Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: NYC Man Posts: 877	But just because someone who might have racist views is unlikely to be explicit about that (some people will still be explicit about it--look at Daniel Carver's comments on the Howard Stern Show for example), that doesn't enable calling statements racist just because they mention race (or ethnicity, etc.) in some way that also involves criticizing someone.