Goofle

I've stated several times that Trump is a ridiculous candidate. The fact that he and Hillary are in the running is a farce. But I like Trump more than her and he would strike less fear in me if I were an American.

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Um.

Chula Vista

Might as well stay home. Same as throwing your vote away on someone who doesn't have a hope in hell. Someday you will grow up and understand this.

Being a 'first' wife is a political experience. She was most likely one of his closest advisers for those 8 years.

If a third part did well enough in the primaries and I agreed with their values, and I think I wouldn't be tossing my vote in the toilet, I'd vote for them. Hasn't happened yet. The two party system is here to stay for a number of reasons.

The two party system governs themselves. Gives themselves the power.

People love the two sided fighting and bickering that happens every election cycle between red and blue. It's like a drug in many ways.

Us vs. them. Up vs. down. Left vs. right. Yankees vs. Red Sox. Ali vs. Frazier. Bird vs. Magic. People love Mano Y Mano.

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The Batlord

Might as well not vote as vote, at least in an election with over a hundred million participants while living in California. Your input is meaningless. You have no voice. You could be a gun-toting Trump fan, but to the political parties you'd essentially still be a liberal since you live in California. Your only voice is in the collective shouting of all of the other people who didn't vote Republican (who might as well have their right to vote stripped for all the good it does them).

Why even leave the house on election day except to vote for local officials? What purpose does it serve?

Maybe she was. Got proof?

Edit:

Was that so hard?

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Chula Vista

You answered your own question.


See my previous post.

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Frownland

Change is difficult so **** trying? Lame. I feel like this election is a bit different tbh or I'd generally agree with you.



Nah. Give us something more solid than conjecture.



And it's stupid and needs to change.

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Key

So, you won't give a third party the chance to do well, you'll wait until they've done well enough to vote for them. And instead of helping that cause, you'll instead throw your vote towards someone who is corrupt and you know is a bad vote. Yeah, that makes way more sense than trying to change the game when both candidates are ****.

Chula Vista

I don't agree that she's totally ****. I think she'll work on policy that will help me and my ideologies.

Guys, don't preach to me about this stuff. You're wasting your breath.

Go vote third party all you want. I really don't give two ****s.

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Wpnfire

That is the worst decision you can make. Not voting because you hate both major candidates allows the vocal majority (the extreme right and extreme left), who will vote no matter what, to have an uncontested vote. Voting for a third party takes votes away from the candidates, and may force one of them to compromise on values. It's similar to way the open market functions. Two major companies at odds with each other compete against each other, until a new company shows up with a business strategy to offer decreased prices. That company steals customers from one or both of the major companies, and the best and most strategic company will absorb the business practices of the smaller company in order to survive or gain an edge against competitors.

Basically, it encourages competition. This is all in theory btw, it's never this simple in reality.

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William_the_Bloody

I would encourage people to vote for a third candidate party this election if that is their desire, because we are literally seeing the implosion of the Republican Party, which will most likely go down to a historic defeat.

They are getting what they deserve though, for years the Republican establishment has been ripping off their base with false promises, which has allowed a con man (Trump) to walk through the door, who now finds himself in over his head.

I have no doubt that Hillary will make a good President, she is a policy wonk who has some strong economic advisors behind her, but she is also very corrupt. I doubt she will significantly raise taxes on the wealthy, or do the things that are needed to get the US off the path that's been killing American manufacturing and wages in the US.

I personally don't think Sanders would have won even if Clinton didn't have the DNC in her pocket, but the party corruption of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and other DNC big wigs that helped ensure her victory is reprehensible.

There is therefore a very strong moral argument not to vote for either Trump or Clinton at this point.