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Key · 05-17-2016, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

We are allowed to have discussions, disagree and argue. It's totally fine.

I'm joking, you ****.

djchameleon · 05-17-2016, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

1. Not read the Quran, but have seen enough to know that it - and the Hadith's - are far from the kind of books people should be living their lives by.

If you have not read the Quran then you don't know enough to know what is actually in the text and how peaceful it is. You only see snippets of the Quran being basterdized.

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Originally Posted by Goofle

2. You know I don't have an issue with all Muslims so please don't talk as if I have ever said that, it doesn't come across well.

You said you have a problem with the religion of Islam which all Muslims are supposed to be practicing. You are the only one making yourself look bad and not coming across well.

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Originally Posted by Goofle

3. People don't have to support any views, but not being tolerant and classically liberal (free speech, equality etc) isn't going to mix well in Western countries.

So it's okay for you to have free speech but if their free speech doesn't agree with your views it's not okay. Is that what you are saying or am I not reading that right?

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69

its so funny to me when people think that most muslims are radical muslims or whatever. most muslims (that I know at least) don't even practice islam properly.

This exactly. They eat up everything they read from the media and all of the shock type stuff that gets reported.

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**Frownland** · 05-17-2016, 05:14 PM

"Proper" practice of Islam is very debatable.

kibbeh · 05-17-2016, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

"Proper" practice of Islam is very debatable.

yeah, you're right. i know people who hate islam hate hearing this and think islam is just one thing but people have different interpretations of the religion. theres even a gay imam in france which a lot of people would argue is unislamic but whatever, hes free to call himself a muslim if he wants to.

Xurtio · 05-17-2016, 06:06 PM

Indonesia has a mosque dedicated to trans people.

Zhanteimi · 05-17-2016, 06:08 PM

^Not that I disbelieve you, but can you provide a link? I'd like to read more about that.

The Batlord · 05-17-2016, 06:34 PM

Allahu gaybar!

(Yes, I know trans doesn't mean gay, but I don't care.)

Xurtio · 05-17-2016, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

^Not that I disbelieve you, but can you provide a link? I'd like to read more about that.

Sure, I just googled this, having heard of it a while ago and not recalling the source:

Inside the world's first and only transgender mosque in Indonesia | Metro News

**Goofle** · 05-17-2016, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

If you have not read the Quran then you don't know enough to know what is actually in the text and how peaceful it is. You only see snippets of the Quran being basterdized.

You said you have a problem with the religion of Islam which all Muslims are supposed to be practicing. You are the only one making yourself look bad and not coming across well.

So it's okay for you to have free speech but if their free speech doesn't agree with your views it's not okay. Is that what you are saying or am I not reading that right?

1. The Quran is peaceful? Have you read it yourself? Like I said, I've only seen snippets, but I have also listened to many Ex-Muslims, religious scholars and practicing Muslims discussing the violence within it. The Quran's Verses of Violence

2. I do have a problem with islam, just like I have a problem with Christianity and any other organized religion. I don't feel the need to qualify every sentence on the matter by saying "I also don't like x, x and x".

3. I'm obviously not saying I should have free speech and Muslims should not. I don't understand how you even came to that conclusion. I'm saying I dislike the bad ideas within Islam, and the Muslims who go out and practice the bad ideas. I've already stated that I am aware of the difference between the majority of good intentioned Muslims and terrorists.

**Frownland** · 05-17-2016, 07:10 PM

@ number one: holy poorly translated and paraphrased religious texts, Batman! You should read it so you can see that even the verses that remain violent in context and in translation are dwarfed by the softer sides of Islam in the Quran.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	"Proper" practice of Islam is very debatable. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Xurtio Brain Licker Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,083	Indonesia has a mosque dedicated to trans people. __________________ H̓̇̅̉yͤ͏mͬ͂ͧn͑̽̽̌ͪ̑͐͟o̴͊̈́͑̇m͛͌̓ͦ̑aͫ̽ͤ̇n̅̎͐̒ͫ͐c̆ͯͫ̋ ̔̃́eͯ͒rͬͬ̄҉

05-17-2016, 07:10 PM	#1560 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	@ number one: holy poorly translated and paraphrased religious texts, Batman! You should read it so you can see that even the verses that remain violent in context and in translation are dwarfed by the softer sides of Islam in the Quran. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Zhanteimi Mord Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tokyo Posts: 4,873	^Not that I disbelieve you, but can you provide a link? I'd like to read more about that.