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Old 05-06-2016, 11:09 AM   #1081 (permalink)
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^She's corrupt. Have you been keeping up with the recent developments about her?

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Old 05-06-2016, 11:21 AM   #1082 (permalink)
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Where did all of the "mistrust" for Hillary stem from? What's the basis for it?
It's because of her compulsive lying, her changing of political standpoints (gay marriage, for instance), warmongering, the E-mail scandal, donations from the fossil fuel industry, and the undemocratic nature of her campaign.

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^She's a woman.
That's not the reason. Many of Bernie Sanders' early supporters wanted Elisabeth Warren to run for the Democratic nomination, and would have supported her instead of Sanders if she had decided to run.

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Yes. Is it just because she's a career politician?
No, but should we trust career politicians?
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^my woman comment was sarcastic.
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^my woman comment was sarcastic.
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Old 05-06-2016, 12:22 PM   #1085 (permalink)
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1. Utilizing Bill's pharmaceutical policies to buy up cheap stocks and profit massively off of them.

2. War hawk

3. Lying all the damn time

4. Corporate favouritism

5. Patriot act, Iraq war, racist crime reform bill, million dollar closed door speeches, etc.

6. Flip flop flippity flap flip flapping flip flopper to the highest degree without a drop of genuineness.

Should I go on? If it comes down to her and Trump I guess I'll vote for her, but the sun doesn't shine out of her ass just because she supports social security (for now).
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Can we assemble a similar list for every other politician or politician-wanna-be?

Same ole same ole for cripes sake.
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Can we assemble a similar list for every other politician or politician-wanna-be?

Not Bernie. Not one on Frownie's list.
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^if you can somehow muster up a list that makes Bernie look bad, by all means do so. Because I certainly cant.

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1) He is old. Not a lot, but he certainly looks much older than anyone else running.
2) He has little executive experience. He has been in Congress, but never held leadership roles. He served as Chair of the Senate VA Committee for 2 years. Before Congress, he was mayor of Burlington, VT, a town of 42k.
3) He greatly wants to expand government spending and increase taxes. While I think his goals are laudable, I think he is outside what most people would be comfortable with. Bernie Sanders's single-payer plan is almost twice as expensive as he says
4) He wants large tax increases. That may be necessary, but the last time Democrats ran a nominee who called for large tax increases was in 1984. Mondale was right, Reagan did raise taxes in 1986, but Reagan won 49 states because of it, including Vermont.
5) He is not a member of the Democratic Party. He is listed as an Independent, but he is actually a member of the Socialist Party.
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And you don't trust him because of all of that? I don't trust old people either.
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