South Carolina shooting

YorkeDaddy · 06-18-2015, 10:45 AM

The rundown: some White dude walks into an African American church in Charleston, sits around while they're all praying for a bit, and then decides to shoot and kill 9 people. He leaves a few alive on purpose and tells them he did it so that the survivors could tell people what happened. Luckily after a huge manhunt the scumbag was caught by police just a little bit ago.

Obviously a hate crime and he'll likely be charged federally to life in prison.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 06-18-2015, 11:10 AM

well i don't know about you people, but i think this white guy sounds like a real jerk

RoxyRollah · 06-18-2015, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

The rundown: some White dude walks into an African American church in Charleston, sits around while they're all praying for a bit, and then decides to shoot and kill 9 people. He leaves a few alive on purpose and tells them he did it so that the survivors could tell people what happened. Luckily after a huge manhunt the scumbag was caught by police just a little bit ago.

Obviously a hate crime and he'll likely be charged federally to life in prison.

More than likely it'll be death. Hate crimes can be punishable by death. In order for it to be death penalty worthy, it has to be two or more people, or law enforcement officer. A girlfriend of mine had had her head bashed in and her boyfriend was murdered next to her (for a bottle of wild irish rose and 10 bucks fyi.) And the prosecutor looked at her and said I can't seek death two or more had to die or it had to be a cop.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-18-2015, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

More than likely it'll be death. Hate crimes can be punishable by death. In order for it to be death penalty worthy, it has to be two or more people, or law enforcement officer. A girlfriend of mine had had her head bashed in and her boyfriend was murdered next to her (for a bottle of wild irish rose and 10 bucks fyi.) And the prosecutor looked at her and said I can't seek death two or more had to die or it had to be a cop.

Why?

Machine · 06-18-2015, 11:51 AM

This story is just plain sad, I'm not gonna go into the whole racism thing this is, and I just want to say that either way this story is just extremely sad.

RoxyRollah · 06-18-2015, 11:51 AM

Because they have an elevated place in the legal system because they are part of it. Listen it's a big club, right all of them lawyers, cops, judges they all are in bed together literally, they marry each-other, you have whole families in law enforcement. They look after their own. I dunno if the laws for capitol punishment are different from state to state but I am pretty sure a federal hate crime like that is punishable by death. **** looked at Tim Mcveigh not exactly a hate crime, but children were involved and it was very reminiscent of the church bombing in Alabama in the 60s where those four little girls died. They kill you for those types of things, as it should be imo. You just aren't fit man, to be part of this world again imo.

The Batlord · 06-18-2015, 01:14 PM

It also has to do with maintaining law and order by attaching greater consequences to actions against those who are charged with maintaining it. Does it seem fair that committing a crime against someone who just happens to have a badge will result in more serious repercussions? Maybe not. But if assaulting a police officer didn't result in a more serious charge than a regular assault, then it would probably result in a lot more assaults on police officers, which may very well undermine the safety of the public by making police more likely to be targeted.

Moss · 06-18-2015, 01:17 PM

Have to admit, when I first heard about it I was thinking "please don't be a white guy, please don't be a white guy". But of course it was. Evil bastard.

DwnWthVwls · 06-18-2015, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

It also has to do with maintaining law and order by attaching greater consequences to actions against those who are charged with maintaining it. Does it seem fair that committing a crime against someone who just happens to have a badge will result in more serious repercussions? Maybe not. But if assaulting a police officer didn't result in a more serious charge than a regular assault, then it would probably result in a lot more assaults on police officers, which may very well undermine the safety of the public by making police more likely to be targeted.

God forbid they know what it feels like.

The Batlord · 06-18-2015, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

God forbid they know what it feels like.

Regardless of how many show themselves unworthy of special consideration, the police in general still provide a necessary service that needs to be protected.

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Machine moon lake inc. Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,125	This story is just plain sad, I'm not gonna go into the whole racism thing this is, and I just want to say that either way this story is just extremely sad. __________________ boost my ego listen to me stroke my delay pedal ever wanted to hear death grips songs... but they're acoustic? me neither.

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~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	well i don't know about you people, but i think this white guy sounds like a real jerk

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Moss Scuttle Buttin' Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Boulder Colorado Posts: 972	Have to admit, when I first heard about it I was thinking "please don't be a white guy, please don't be a white guy". But of course it was. Evil bastard.