John Wilkes Booth

the incentive to get registered mostly comes from the fact that having an unregistered firearm would be a crime, and if caught with one you'd be charged.

obviously there are tons of guns out there that we will have to deal with regardless. i'm not saying this system fixes all gun problems

but it aims to stop the flow of new illegal weapons from the legal market. which i would consider a pretty big improvement.

edit - yea i'm fine with background checks... but iirc the newton kid used his mothers guns to go on that rampage. really this system isn't designed to address the mass shooting phenomenon. cause i really don't think there is a way to stop people like that from going off randomly. or at least not that i can think of... feel free if anyone else has any ideas about that.

the registry/database/accountability system thing i'm talking about is aimed more at limiting the potential of the criminal underworld to arm themselves. i mean look at what's happening in chicago.

Chula Vista

Point being that even in the immediate wake of that horrendous event the country couldn't collectively get behind perfectly common sense gun legislation. I remember how the numbers went in the weeks following. Immediately after a large percentage were for universal checks and the politicians jumped on board. Then with each passing week the numbers quickly plummeted and the politos quickly started backing away.

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The Batlord

You're taking something that directly affected about twenty people in a nation of 300 million, and saying we should enact national policy because of it. I'm all for universal checks and all that good business, but I don't base my stance on gun control around isolated incidents.

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Chula Vista

Nah, that affected a hell of a lot of people to varying degrees. Pretty much every parent of a young child was a bit messed up over that. Hell, f*cked me up for a while afterwards. Mainly wondering how the kid was able to get so screwed up unchecked to the point of snapping like that.

But I get what you're saying.

Point being movements will try to gain ground based on flash point incidents. And it's worked quite a few times in the past.

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and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

grindy

In Germany there's a law that says guns have to be kept in a safe at all times, and it has to be a serious safe, nothing you can open with just a little key. There was a school shooting a few years ago, where it turned out that the perpetrator's father didn't secure the guns as well as he should have and if I remember correctly he got sued the **** out of him.

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The Batlord

So what happens if he needs the gun? Spin that lock quick as a mother****er?

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grindy

Oh we don't use the guns here, we just keep them in safes and enjoy the thought of having them.

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The Batlord

I guess you'll be ****ed, but at least your money'll be able to blow that sucker away.

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grindy

I guess the chance of someone in the household harming others or oneself with a badly secured gun is much higher than the chance of a home invasion or something of that sort happening, where having a gun would be helpful, but it's out of reach because the safe is too damn safe.

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