So what happens if he needs the gun? Spin that lock quick as a mother****er?

Oh we don't use the guns here, we just keep them in safes and enjoy the thought of having them.

I guess you'll be ****ed, but at least your money'll be able to blow that sucker away.

I guess the chance of someone in the household harming others or oneself with a badly secured gun is much higher than the chance of a home invasion or something of that sort happening, where having a gun would be helpful, but it's out of reach because the safe is too damn safe.

'to some extent' is the key, to me.



sounds kind of silly to me

pretty sure the real military could pwn them

Of course they can. The professional army if they really wanted to would stomp all over that militia. Point is though we no longer need a militia to defend the homeland from invaders. Which makes the second amendment outdated and needs to be updated. There's a debate about if they go hand and hand or not.

I have one of these bolted to a dresser - you can't get at the bolts without it being open.

http://www.amazon.com/Stack--QAS-450...ck+on+gun+safe

I can get it open in about 5 seconds. The gun is loaded but not chambered. I figure me yelling "I have a gun" while racking the slide (such a cool sound), would be a good deterrent.

Read a great book about the 2nd amendment. It was a bunch of legal types trying to fully dissect the meaning of that key phrase: "A well armed militia necessary for the security of the free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Basically they surmised that the founding father's really ****ed up with how they worded it. They left it too wide open to interpretation.

i said that cause i have encountered a lot of pro gun people who seem to think the 2nd amendment is for protecting the people from govt tyranny/making it possible to overthrow the govt if need be

Yeah...uh...the Confederacy tried that and we all know how that turned out. Realistically it's a bad idea. And people can think what they like about our gov't, but I'll take ours over some of the piles of turd that I've seen any day of the week.

This was always my understanding of it.. It's just such a dated concept. The idea of modern revolution via physical combat to overthrow the government is laughable. It was reasonable when it was written though.