Policing Debate (Moved from the Confessional Thread)

fiddler · 05-26-2015, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Why would I prosecute myself? That's not my job. That's your job, and like I already said, do your fucking job. If I get caught I'll own it, I understand the consequences of my actions and take part willingly.

Oh, I do do my job. It was a hypothetical situation to prove that your sense of morals isn't as strong as it seems to be. Because if you expect us to enforce the laws equally without picking and choosing, so when it applies to you, it should be said that you would stick to your morals. After all, right is right and wrong is wrong. The problem with this argument is that it leaves no gray area, and in law there is a LOT of gray area. Roxy could tell you that, she'll be studying criminal law or so.

Your main point is for cops to be fair, consistent, and not to abuse the power, yes? Good, we agree.

DwnWthVwls · 05-26-2015, 10:49 AM

This isn't an issue of morality. I am not a representative of the law, it is not my duty to uphold the law. It IS yours, that's what YOU signed up for. Not me.

I didn't take an oath to be a law abiding citizen. I didn't sign a paper saying I wouldn't break the law. I follow laws because I agree with them not because they are laws. I break laws because I disagree with them not because I want to get in trouble.

If we agree then next time we talk about the drunkin assholes you handle on base I hope you don't wait until morning to "deal with it" to avoid the hassle of paperwork.

Chula Vista · 05-26-2015, 11:24 AM

Sorry, but IMO you're being a bit of a dick DWV.

DwnWthVwls · 05-26-2015, 11:30 AM

How so? I'm not attacking Fiddler. He asked me how I feel about a certain scenario. I thought we were having a pretty good back and fourth. Would your rather I lie about how I feel about a sensitive topic?

You don't have to apologize for your opinion but you could at least explain yourself.

Plankton · 05-26-2015, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

How so?

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

That's pretty much the epitome of why you suck.

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DwnWthVwls · 05-26-2015, 11:39 AM

That was a generalization(as was the do your fucking job comment, I meant police in general not Fiddler, which I see I didn't make clear), not a direct attack on Fiddler. And the discussion has long since moved past that.

I did call him a sheep though, so you can ride me for that.

Chula Vista · 05-26-2015, 11:41 AM

We should all be expected to extend a certain amount of common courtesy to new members, especially if they come off as cool from the get go. Fiddler has been nothing but cool from day one.

DwnWthVwls · 05-26-2015, 11:46 AM

Fiddler and I have already somewhat discussed this in plug. If you're not comfortable reading a conversation you have no context for understanding then remove yourself. If you are comfortable then contribute to it in a meaningful way, Fiddler is perfectly comfortable speaking his mind to me.

Edit: I already PM'd Jans to move this off topic discussion to a new thread in the debate forums. Just waiting for a response.

Chula Vista · 05-26-2015, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

If you're not comfortable reading a conversation you have no pretense for understanding then remove yourself.

Again, being a dick.

YorkeDaddy · 05-26-2015, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Again, being a dick.

He's right though, Fiddler doesn't seem offended or anything in any way so I'm not sure why the conversation requires your backseat policing

05-26-2015, 11:24 AM	#23 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Sorry, but IMO you're being a bit of a dick DWV. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

05-26-2015, 11:41 AM	#27 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	We should all be expected to extend a certain amount of common courtesy to new members, especially if they come off as cool from the get go. Fiddler has been nothing but cool from day one. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”