GuD

He didn't really make any points, he just stated statistics and related them to stereotypes of homosexual men.

RoxyRollah

You actually watched this. That's actually funny. .

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John Wilkes Booth

nah, if you can't be bothered to watch the video then you don't need to respond to this challenge.

YorkeDaddy

and if you can't be bothered to summarize it why the **** would anyone respond to this "challenge"

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i feel that i really shouldn't need to summarize it for you. if i do then people will just respond to the summary and ignore the video. i'd rather they just watch the video and then respond. if they don't feel like doing this then that's fine... i don't understand why it is you feel compelled to respond to my thread if you don't care. cause if the shoe were on the other foot and you were challenging me to debunk some video i didn't care to watch then i would just ignore your thread, lol.

in short: if you don't feel like investing the 10-20 minutes it would take to get the gist of the video then i think that's a pretty good indicator that whatever you're willing to put into your response won't be worth much to me anyway.

Janszoon

The part where he talked about whether or not hubris was a contributing factor to the Kushite empire's loss of Egypt in the face of Assyrian aggression may have been erudite but I didn't find it especially funny. It wasn't particularly homophobic either though.

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adidasss

Wow, really, a "few" flaws in his logic?
Wasn't particularly homophobic?
Wow.

Ok, off the top of my head:

- One article on the Advocate where ONE gay may writes about HIS opinion that people's HIV status should be kept private DOES NOT equal ALL gay men feel this way. In fact, it's the opposite. What IS true, however, is there is a general movement away from stigmatizing HIV positive people and helping them lead more positive and inclusive lives, considering that HIV is now a manageable disease and is no longer a death sentence (unlike what this guy apparently thinks).

- Pedophilia has NOTHING to do with homosexuality and EVERYTHING to do with the age of the victims.

- NO country in the world has successfully eradicated homophobia, including the Netherlands (which, btw, is not a model for anything really, considering the recent spike in xenophobia). So yes, mental health issues in homosexuals are definitely still related with the fact that heterosexual people NEVER have to deal with the fact of coming out and acceptance within their own families and social groups and gay people obviously do. Even in the most liberal societies, it's still a very difficult and often traumatizing process.

- gay men are not inherently more promiscuous than straight men, they just have more opportunities. Correct me if I'm wrong, but every straight guy wants to f*ck as many p*ssies as possible, but the feeling is usually not mutual. There are exceptions to the rule, and some women certainly have an equally pronounced sex drive as men, but generally it's not a balanced equation, hence, less sex for heterosexual men. If women felt the same way about sex as men do, trust me, straight men would be more promiscuous too.

- incidentally, having lots of sex is not a perversion. It's called having fun. Because sex is fun. As long as you keep it safe. Even that guy would be super happy if he could put his d*ck in a random p*ssy, if they'd let him.
Some gay or straight men and women, prefer to be single and have sex with random people, most men and women, gay or straight, prefer to be in stable relationships.

- again, the so called "patient zero" is one gay person and does NOT represent the entire, VERY varied community.

- the barebacking community is one MINOR section of the gay community. MOST gay men are not that reckless.

All, clearly, biased and hateful bullsh*t. I could do the same thing, pull out random facts about the heterosexual community and make generalized, hateful statements like, most serial killers are heterosexual, white and male, I guess that means ALL heterosexual white males are serial killers?? Crap.

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so wait... if you get hiv these days it doesn't necessarily mean you'll eventually die of aids? was there a press release i missed or something?

right... i mean i'm not a math genius or anything but i think the point he was making was that since, even if they haven't eradicated homophobia in whatever country, if the homophobia is the cause of the mental illnesses then you should see the stats on mental illness fluctuate with the amount of homophobia. and he was saying that the stats stay pretty much constant regardless of the country. meaning all countries have the same amount of homophobia, if homophobia is the cause

i dunno if any of that is true, just demonstrating the logic for you

those stats wouldn't add up because serial killers represent a much smaller portion of the population than heterosexual white males... thus making your conclusion mathematically impossible.

adidasss

Yes, antiretroviral treatment and drugs have been a reality for almost 20 years now. They not only significantly prolong the life expectancy of those with HIV to the point that HIV positive people are now expected to live as long as HIV negative people, but they also keep the virus levels so low they significantly reduce the chances of transmitting the virus to other people.

https://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics...iv-treatments/

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Obviously, a lot of work still needs to be done to educate people on HIV.

Well, I guess I could go and try to check up on his "facts", but considering that his premise is that homosexuals are mentally ill, I don't think I'll bother.

Not mathematically, but logically, same as every single conclusion he made in the video...

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