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Old 05-17-2015, 10:57 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Out of curiosity, does it piss you off when people put IEDs on the sides of roads in Iraq where kids/civilians walk by to and from the market every day?
...YES????? What the **** kind of question is this???
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Old 05-17-2015, 10:58 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Out of curiosity, does it piss you off when people put IEDs on the sides of roads in Iraq where kids/civilians walk by to and from the market every day?
Of course. Out of curiosity, why would you even consider it wouldn't?
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Old 05-17-2015, 11:02 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Of course. Out of curiosity, why would you even consider it wouldn't?
I was just asking. Sometimes people get a bias opinion when it happens to THEIR country but if the same things happen in other countries they brush it off as the "everyday". Glad to see you do not suffer from this. (And it does still happen just about every day there. It's stupid and horrible and hideous.)
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Old 05-17-2015, 11:04 AM   #74 (permalink)
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I understand where you are coming from. And yes, emotion plays a big part of my opinion on the matter. I just think there has to be some lines, that if crossed, results in you being deleted.

That guy and his brother randomly placed those shrapnel filled bombs without zero regard for who they ripped apart.

That's one of those lines IMO.
These situations will test people's values and their moral integrity. If your values are not well grounded, they may well be shaken to the core. Maybe someone who's normally against torture thinks he should be tortured. Perhaps someone who would normally oppose the death penalty thinks he should be killed. Perhaps someone who was already angry got a little more hateful.

But how strong is that moral integrity or those values if it takes one bomber for people to abandon them?

I think such situations are also an opportunity for a people to show that there are more important things than revenge and hatred - to show care, forgiveness, tolerance, and that values are not so easily forsaken .. To stay strong in adversity, not give in to hate and show that they are better than the bomber who himself would sentence people to death.
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Old 05-17-2015, 11:08 AM   #75 (permalink)
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I was just asking. Sometimes people get a bias opinion when it happens to THEIR country but if the same things happen in other countries they brush it off as the "everyday".
I'm far from flag waving. Gotta admit that the fact it happened in my old back yard plays a bit of a role though.

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To stay strong in adversity, not give in to hate and show that they are better than the bomber who himself would sentence people to death.
Again, I totally get where you are coming from.
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Old 05-17-2015, 11:10 AM   #76 (permalink)
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What do you think this is? Britain? You're not supposed to wear the American flag as clothing. It's basic flag etiquette. You're a ****ing terrorist, dude.
You're right. I'll just wear a confederate flag to represent what America is truly about.
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These situations will test people's values and their moral integrity. If your values are not well grounded, they may well be shaken to the core. Maybe someone who's normally against torture thinks he should be tortured. Perhaps someone who would normally oppose the death penalty thinks he should be killed. Perhaps someone who was already angry got a little more hateful.

But how strong is that moral integrity or those values if it takes one bomber for people to abandon them?

I think such situations are also an opportunity for a people to show that there are more important things than revenge and hatred - to show care, forgiveness, tolerance, and that values are not so easily forsaken .. To stay strong in adversity, not give in to hate and show that they are better than the bomber who himself would sentence people to death.
Very well put. I completely agree.
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I'm far from flag waving. Gotta admit that the fact it happened in my old back yard plays a bit of a role though. ~
Of course it does. Something like this has a habit of - like tore said - making clear thinking people go asinine and off the deep end. But if I were to ask some of the more extreme ones the exact same question, it would probably be brushed off as "not important" or otherwise. Did it piss me off? Of course it did. An attack on the people of the United States is a personal attack on me. And I won't claim not to be bias, because I am. But I've also been to Iraq where IEDs on the side of the road are common place. Here it's a tragedy, there it IS part of the everyday.
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Here it's a tragedy, there it IS part of the everyday.
To use your own words, of course. Most folks are simply too far removed to have empathy for what is going on in remote parts of the world. Sucks, but it is what it is.

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You're right. I'll just wear a confederate flag to represent what America is truly about.
Well that's alright, then. You can borrow mine, but I'll expect it back. I need it in time for the meeting.
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