Dzhokhar Tsarnaev sentenced to death

~~Soulflower~~ · 05-15-2015, 06:48 PM

Did you read my entire post before you pointed out that one thing? I just asked because you are taking a phrase out of context when I made my stance clear in my post.

grtwhtgrvty · 05-15-2015, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

He set off that bomb with pure evil ill intent. All for a "cause". I'm sure at the time he wished to kill a lot of innocent people, considering the circumstances.

F*ck him.

You wanna pull that **** here? You die as a result.

And Soul, what the hell with the "attractive boy" crap?

But life in prison is way worse.

Neapolitan · 05-15-2015, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev sentenced to death - CNN.com

See you in hell, motherfucker

So you are planning to go to hell too? How else would you see him there?

YorkeDaddy · 05-15-2015, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

So you are planning to go to hell too? How else would you see him there?

Well if we're going by what Christianity states and given that I am an atheist who makes fun of what Christianity says on a faily basis I certainly WOULD go to hell if Christianity was somehow the actual truth

Psy-Fi · 05-15-2015, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

I agree.

I don't see how giving him the death penalty is going to bring justice to the families because killing this 21 year old boy is not going to bring any of the victims back.

I think the only reason why they gave him the death penalty was because they felt he should have "shown" more remorse but imo just because his remorse might not have been as visible in court does not mean he was not remorseful about what he did.

However, having this attractive boy live the rest of his life in a cell causes more emotional and psychological damage versus giving him a slow painless death. What is the message that we are trying to send? What is the lesson that needs to be learned? It also would have given him more time to reflect more on what he did and how he ended up in his predicament in the first place.

Boston Marathon bomber - Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

DwnWthVwls · 05-15-2015, 09:31 PM

I see what you did there...

Trollheart · 05-16-2015, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeytennis

He probably thinks he will descend upon heaven for dying as a martyr.
A lifetime in a max security prison from 21 years of age would have been the ultimate punishment imvho.

That's a great Freudian slip man! You obviously meant "ascend upon Heaven" but said descend, which indicates Hell of course...

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

He set off that bomb with pure evil ill intent. All for a "cause". I'm sure at the time he wished to kill a lot of innocent people, considering the circumstances.

F*ck him.

You wanna pull that **** here? You die as a result.

And Soul, what the hell with the "attractive boy" crap?

I'm assuming she means had he been sentenced to life in prison, being a relatively young and good looking guy he would have had a lot of "girlfriends" inside. Which, given the reported muslim aversion to homosexuality, might have been a living hell for him...

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

So you are planning to go to hell too? How else would you see him there?

From Heaven of course.

I'm not sure how I feel about the death penalty. Some crimes are definitely heinous enough that the savage in me wants to be revenged by the person's own life being taken. I mean, life in prison? Sometimes it's not that long and anyway that person (say a murderer) gets to live (albeit confined), maybe learn new skills, find God, whatever, while the people they murdered can't do that. Not to mention, in this instance, sending him to prison could provide a focal point for other homegrown insurgents, who might try to get him out or make a shrine of his cell. Maybe he'd become more powerful a symbol alive and imprisoned than he would as a martyr.

It's hard to say, but in the end I think death is the best outcome here. Just doesn't feel like justice is done, if you see him in years to come giving interviews, writing books, released if he gets sick? I don't know. I'd feel happier with the **** gone off the planet. But that's just me.

The Batlord · 05-16-2015, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

I agree.

I don't see how giving him the death penalty is going to bring justice to the families because killing this 21 year old boy is not going to bring any of the victims back.

I think the only reason why they gave him the death penalty was because they felt he should have "shown" more remorse but imo just because his remorse might not have been as visible in court does not mean he was not remorseful about what he did.

However, having this attractive boy live the rest of his life in a cell causes more emotional and psychological damage versus giving him a slow painless death. What is the message that we are trying to send? What is the lesson that needs to be learned? It also would have given him more time to reflect more on what he did and how he ended up in his predicament in the first place.

I think he would have gotten the death penalty regardless. The case was so high profile, and public opinion was so blood thirsty, that I imagine that it would have been almost impossible to find a jury that didn't want to see him fry.

GuD · 05-16-2015, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Not to mention, in this instance, sending him to prison could provide a focal point for other homegrown insurgents, who might try to get him out or make a shrine of his cell. Maybe he'd become more powerful a symbol alive and imprisoned than he would as a martyr.

This is an interesting point.

Normally I feel like rehabilitation is the most ethical route for criminals. That and make them work, have a positive impact on society while incarcerated. But some people appear beyond repair, at least with current means. At the same time well never get there if we don't try. Idk, is it worth extending compassion to someone so evil with such unlikely odds of them learning the impact of their decision(s), heavily influenced/brainwashed into or not? Is it fair to their victims? I don't think so, tbh. But it seems to me issues with crime are more complicated than so-and-so is terrible, they'll never learn, we should just kill em.

Overcast · 05-16-2015, 01:03 PM

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~~Soulflower~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,304	Did you read my entire post before you pointed out that one thing? I just asked because you are taking a phrase out of context when I made my stance clear in my post.