The Refugee crisis

Unknown Soldier · 11-10-2015, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

i'm not saying you can never have immigrants from alien cultures. i'm saying mass immigration from an alien culture is going to be problematic. if you have a small number of muslim immigrants from the middle east, as we do here in america, there isn't really much of a problem. notice that america has a lot less of an issue with islamic extremism than europe does. this is because we aren't importing entire communities at a time. yet we do have this issue with latin american/mexican immigrants in certain border states for the reasons i listed earlier. it comes down to scale. if you import too many people from a certain culture, you are creating a barrier to assimilation. or rather you are lessening the incentive for them to assimilate.

That's the whole point though, the mass immigration that you're referring to is an overblown issue that is nowhere near as bad as the European press would have you believe. Sure there are probably more muslims here now than before, but there are also more Africans and Eastern Europeans as well.

I also disagree with your final point about barriers of assimilation, a more alien culture just takes more time and I think you put too much of an emphasis on the importance of religion in terms of immigrants having problems adapting here, all immigrants if they're religious have their own places of worship and a certain amount of freedom.

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the article doesn't go against my viewpoint at all. my viewpoint is that cultural cohesion matters in a society. it is you, the proponents of open ended multiculturalism, who are debunked by the situation in turkey. it has nothing to do with democracy: the turkish govt isn't the one being hostile to the refugees. it is the natives who are expressing nationalist sentiments. it is a cultural/ethnic dilemma. just as i stated before.

If you were student of history, you'd probably be aware that Turkey has pretty much been at war with all its neighbours, most of its neighbours hate Turkey and in turn Turkey probably isn't too keen on them either.

Charitable causes is not something that countries in that part of the world undertake that often, so its no surprise that Syrian refugees are exactly going to be welcome there.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 11-10-2015, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

That's the whole point though, the mass immigration that you're referring to is an overblown issue that is nowhere near as bad as the European press would have you believe. Sure there are probably more muslims here now than before, but there are also more Africans and Eastern Europeans as well.

I also disagree with your final point about barriers of assimilation, a more alien culture just takes more time and I think you put too much of an emphasis on the importance of religion in terms of immigrants having problems adapting here, all immigrants if they're religious have their own places of worship and a certain amount of freedom.

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If you were student of history, you'd probably be aware that Turkey has pretty much been at war with all its neighbours, most of its neighbours hate Turkey and in turn Turkey probably isn't too keen on them either.

if you were a student of history you'd probably be aware that you could say the same thing about european nationalities

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