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I also disagree with your final point about barriers of assimilation, a more alien culture just takes more time and I think you put too much of an emphasis on the importance of religion in terms of immigrants having problems adapting here, all immigrants if they're religious have their own places of worship and a certain amount of freedom. Quote:
Charitable causes is not something that countries in that part of the world undertake that often, so its no surprise that Syrian refugees are exactly going to be welcome there.
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what i'm saying is that i wasn't really trying to propose that muslim countries take the refugees... that wasn't even my point. i was trying to point out the different ways we treat western countries vs the rest of the world. we assume the western countries should be humanitarian but don't ask as much from people much closer to them. and the reason that theyre having problems in turkey isn't so specific to turkey... it's basic ethnic tension. turks vs arabs. no different than any other culture vs arabs. when i asked why not turkey, saudi, etc... that was a rhetorical question. i know i did say in one post that the muslim world should take all the refugees, so i'll take that back. cause it isn't even an important part of my stance.
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There really isn't much point in trying to debate anything with JWB as those YouTube videos finally prove, if you're going to use YouTube vids made by self interest people, you're hardly going to present an objective and realistic scenario to the topic that is being discussed.
JWB seems to have a real issue with immigration which of course is his opinion which he's entitled to, but he seems to know absolutely nothing about how it actually works in Europe and ends up just flaming threads. The guy's never been to Europe and just watches the news and videos, and also says he speaks to certain people which is all pretty vague anyway. It's a bit like me after watching the news about America, hijacking one of these gun related threads in America here and stating that America is full of gun crime, shopping mall and school murders, snipers picking off victims and serial killers roaming the land etc and if I or somebody from outside of America said that, it would be sure to flame the thread.
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you just want a monopoly on "what it's like in europe" cause you live there but you are just as self interested as the people who made those videos, so why the hell should i believe you over them? btw you brits do comment on american gun crime and american issues all the time... who the **** are you kidding? you think you know more about the ethnic gangs in the town i am from than i do, even though you've likely never even heard of them before. you're just a simple hypocrite, my friend. the fact is you want to argue from a position of authority because you lack the ability to actually back up your arguments. so you'd rather just state "immigration isn't a big deal" as fact and have nobody question it cause you're the authority on "what it's like in europe." but there are some things which are simply a matter of fact, which can't be dismissed as media bias. such as the extremely high violent crime rate in london. yet you want to wave your arms and dismiss it with "well i haven't had anyone take a shot at me." well, as long as it hasn't affected you personally then i guess it doesn't matter, does it you silly twat? Last edited by John Wilkes Booth; 11-11-2015 at 08:57 AM. |
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Yes Brits go on about gun crime and its related problems in the USA all the time, but its pretty obvious that they're wrong as most don't even live there so how would they know what it's really like? Do you live in Europe or have spent any time here? Do you know the day to day problems that really go on here in its big cities? I doubt it but you're naïve enough to believe what YouTube videos tell you. Now if you'd spent some time here and were speaking with some kind of knowledge about what actually happens here, I'm sure more people would have time for you on this forum. Quote:
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ms-13 is mexican gang that is imported. same with sur-13. MLK on the other hand is a guatamalan gang in south florida that does not exist in guatemala and arose mostly because guats were often targeted and were vulnerable as a community because they are largely illegal and can't go to the cops when they are robbed. |
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