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Frownland 01-06-2016 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1667171)
Nope. I don't watch USA news. Googled the story and not much came up. Major news events drown google with hits from all over the planet.

Lens as in worldview, not sources, hence me talking about bias.

Chula Vista 01-06-2016 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1667222)
Lens as in worldview, not sources, hence me talking about bias.

What the **** you talking about?

1. Go to Google search engine.

2. Type in event or subject.

3. Comment on the results of the search.

That simple. Major **** results in hundreds of results from very diverse sources.

Couldn't find much about this particular event. I get that it was covered extensively in Germany, but it didn't resonate much beyond that from what I can tell.

Frownland 01-06-2016 03:26 PM

Sigh. I'm aware of that and it's not even relevant to what I was saying. Your approach to the situation is what I was trying to explain to TH.

Chula Vista 01-06-2016 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1667235)
Your approach to the situation is what I was trying to explain to TH.

Can you explain it to me?

Do you get what I'm saying? This supposed major event is getting very little international coverage relative to other stories of this sort. Yet, all of the ingredients are there to blow it up?

I'm confused.

Frownland 01-06-2016 04:09 PM

I entirely understand what you're saying.

Nameless 01-07-2016 06:02 AM

That is one of the most bull**** news stories I have seen in my life. Using language like gangs sexually assaulting women when specifically it is a matter of sexual harassment. They're trying to make it sound like a bunch of big dick Arabs and Africans went around slapping people in the face with their dongs. I mean it's bad and should be discussed blah blah blah but that is just retarded. To date isn't there like one reported rape? In an area known for crime at an event with huge amounts of people present there is going to be some level of crime. But this is just all because there were immigrants present too.

Does it stand to reason that they think people would rather be sexually harassed by fellow Germans? Because I have never seen sexual harassment make the news like this before.

GANGS OF RAPING AFRICANS MARAUDING THE COUNTRY LEECHING YOUR BENEFITS IMPREGNATIN YO WOMEN. END THE WHITE RACE. END OF THE WORLD.

Raust 05-13-2016 11:59 PM

It's unfortunate hearing that our allies in the EU are literally being raped by a culture and appropriating there bull**** religion that follows a warlord/beheader/pedophile called the loser Muhammad...

Raust 05-14-2016 12:24 AM

The whole idea behind it to is "lets accept all cultures and religions we're Europe who are we to judge?". Meanwhile Brussels have over a 1/3 of there prison population being refugees. And others coming from the middle east the majority not even knowing the language or the culture. I personally hate to see my allies being manipulated in such a way. Especially when it comes to Angela Merkel in Germany she is the worst leader in that countries history...That **** is ruining Germany and has dirt on her considering she was against such barbaric assimilation in the first place. Go figure just another woman having her hands tied behind her back when it comes to politics.

Raust 05-14-2016 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nameless (Post 1667459)
That is one of the most bull**** news stories I have seen in my life. Using language like gangs sexually assaulting women when specifically it is a matter of sexual harassment. They're trying to make it sound like a bunch of big dick Arabs and Africans went around slapping people in the face with their dongs. I mean it's bad and should be discussed blah blah blah but that is just retarded. To date isn't there like one reported rape? In an area known for crime at an event with huge amounts of people present there is going to be some level of crime. But this is just all because there were immigrants present too.

Does it stand to reason that they think people would rather be sexually harassed by fellow Germans? Because I have never seen sexual harassment make the news like this before.

GANGS OF RAPING AFRICANS MARAUDING THE COUNTRY LEECHING YOUR BENEFITS IMPREGNATIN YO WOMEN. END THE WHITE RACE. END OF THE WORLD.

Guess what believe it or not there is a culture that treats woman like cattle and that is Islam...just sit with that fact.

The Batlord 05-14-2016 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Raust (Post 1697937)
The whole idea behind it to is "lets accept all cultures and religions we're Europe who are we to judge?". Meanwhile Brussels have over a 1/3 of there prison population being refugees. And others coming from the middle east the majority not even knowing the language or the culture. I personally hate to see my allies being manipulated in such a way. Especially when it comes to Angela Merkel in Germany she is the worst leader in that countries history...That **** is ruining Germany and has dirt on her considering she was against such barbaric assimilation in the first place. Go figure just another woman having her hands tied behind her back when it comes to politics.


I hate to invoke Godwin's Law, but...

Janszoon 05-14-2016 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1697947)
I hate to invoke Godwin's Law, but...

:laughing:

Neapolitan 05-14-2016 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1697947)
I hate to invoke Godwin's Law, but...


Reductio ad Hitlerum

Cuthbert 05-14-2016 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Raust (Post 1697934)
It's unfortunate hearing that our allies in the EU are literally being raped by a culture and appropriating there bull**** religion that follows a warlord/beheader/pedophile called the loser Muhammad...

:eek::eek::eek:

:D

Chula Vista 05-14-2016 06:37 PM

Spanish Inquisition anyone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

Or how about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual...cese_of_Boston

Or maybe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillo...nch_Revolution

Seems like Europe pretty much drew up the blueprint for what the radical Islamic terrorists are doing these days.

Don't be a ****ing hypocrite.

Paul Smeenus 05-14-2016 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Raust (Post 1697934)
It's unfortunate hearing that our allies in the EU are literally being raped by a culture and appropriating there bull**** religion that follows a warlord/beheader/pedophile called the loser Muhammad...


*their

Raust 05-15-2016 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1697947)
I hate to invoke Godwin's Law, but...


Ha it was meant as a joke man, but in all seriousness she is destroying a once beautiful country.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1698107)
Spanish Inquisition anyone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

Or how about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual...cese_of_Boston

Or maybe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillo...nch_Revolution

Seems like Europe pretty much drew up the blueprint for what the radical Islamic terrorists are doing these days.

Don't be a ****ing hypocrite.

Man are you really going back in time there. "Hey look at all these awful things Christians have done extending back up to 100 years ago!". I'm talking about what's going on in the 21st century where Islam is destroying Europe where the rape cases you compare from those catholics pale in comparison to what's going on in countries that enforce sharia law where they literally treat woman like cattle. These are all weak arguments you have made and have no relevance what so ever. This is truly embarrassing to bring this **** up when having a grown up talk on Islam.

Paul Smeenus 05-15-2016 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Raust (Post 1698201)
Man are you really going back in time there. "Hey look at all these awful things Christians have done extending back up to 100 years ago!". I'm talking about what's going on in the 21st century where Islam is destroying Europe where the rape cases you compare from those catholics pale in comparison to what's going on in countries that enforce sharia law where they literally treat woman like cattle. These are all weak arguments you have made and have no relevance what so ever. This is truly embarrassing to bring this **** up when having a grown up talk on Islam.


You do realize that there's about a billion Muslims who aren't Islamists? Particularly in Indonesia.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like any religion, but the more fundamentalist any religion gets (fundamentalist Islam is the most violent, granted) the worse they become, I am DEFINITELY including Christianity.

Raust 05-15-2016 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1698215)
You do realize that there's about a billion Muslims who aren't Islamists? Particularly in Indonesia.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like any religion, but the more fundamentalist any religion gets (fundamentalist Islam is the most violent, granted) the worse they become, I am DEFINITELY including Christianity.

Ha the not all argument. Yes I'm well aware there are billions of muslims in the world. And yes I also understand that the vast majority are peaceful. I'm sure we're not going to discuss how backwards of a religion it is in the first place, but that's alright. However, the fundamentalists of the religion the jihadists the terrorist groups commit an insane amount of terror killing 1000's of people a year. There are literally hundreds of thousands of muslims who are associated with these fundamentalist terror organizations such as Isis, Boku Horum, Hamas ect. What is also terrifying is the fact that hundreds of millions of muslims which you I suppose would classify as "fundamentalists" support such groups and suicide bombings/martyrdom. It is a problem that is simply getting out of hand. It's also quiet problematic cause there's no easy solution unfortunately. Christianity is a joke the "terror" done by Christians is nearly non exisistant and is pretty bizarre to bring up when we're talking about Islam.

Chula Vista 05-15-2016 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Raust (Post 1698201)

Man are you really going back in time there. "Hey look at all these awful things Christians have done extending back up to 100 years ago!". I'm talking about what's going on in the 21st century where Islam is destroying Europe where the rape cases you compare from those catholics pale in comparison to what's going on in countries that enforce sharia law where they literally treat woman like cattle. These are all weak arguments you have made and have no relevance what so ever. This is truly embarrassing to bring this **** up when having a grown up talk on Islam.

Bullsh*t. What's a couple hundred years in the grand scheme of human history? Extremist religious fervor has always caused people to do the worst to the unbelievers. Today it happens to be Islam. At one time it was Christianity. And let me tell you, those extreme Christians of that time were sadistic ****s. They didn't have guns or explosives so that had to be a bit more "creative".

Chula Vista 05-15-2016 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Raust (Post 1698223)
I'm sure we're not going to discuss how backwards of a religion it is in the first place.

And there it is. You've come out of the closet.

Raust 05-15-2016 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1698234)
Bullsh*t. What's a couple hundred years in the grand scheme of human history? Extremist religious fervor has always caused people to do the worst to the unbelievers. Today it happens to be Islam. At one time it was Christianity. And let me tell you, those extreme Christians of that time were sadistic ****s. They didn't have guns or explosives so that had to be a bit more "creative".

We're talking about Islamic fundamentalism and you want to talk about Christianity and all the **** they've done. We're not dealing the inquisition here or the guillotine (I suppose if you want to include beheading apostates). I'm criticizing Islam cause of all the horrific **** it's brought to the 21st century the world that we live in today.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1698236)
And there it is. You've come out of the closet.

Come out of the closet? Religion is backwards and stupid what the hell are you talking about? There is absolutely nothing wrong with criticizing a set of ideas one of which we are talking about is the horse **** which is Islam.

Paul Smeenus 05-15-2016 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Raust (Post 1698223)
Ha the not all argument. Yes I'm well aware there are billions of muslims in the world. And yes I also understand that the vast majority are peaceful. I'm sure we're not going to discuss how backwards of a religion it is in the first place, but that's alright. However, the fundamentalists of the religion the jihadists the terrorist groups commit an insane amount of terror killing 1000's of people a year. There are literally hundreds of thousands of muslims who are associated with these fundamentalist terror organizations such as Isis, Boku Horum, Hamas ect. What is also terrifying is the fact that hundreds of millions of muslims which you I suppose would classify as "fundamentalists" support such groups and suicide bombings/martyrdom. It is a problem that is simply getting out of hand. It's also quiet problematic cause there's no easy solution unfortunately. Christianity is a joke the "terror" done by Christians is nearly non exisistant and is pretty bizarre to bring up when we're talking about Islam.

Christianity is EVERY BIT as backwards as Islam. I conceded already that fundamentalist Islam is the most violent, certainly in the 21st century.

By the way, there are these things called "paragraphs".

Raust 05-15-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1698246)
Christianity is EVERY BIT as backwards as Islam. I conceded already that fundamentalist Islam is the most violent, certainly in the 21st century.

By the way, there are these things called "paragraphs".

Sorry bro been reading to much House of Leaves.

Lilja 05-16-2016 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Raust (Post 1698223)
Christianity is a joke the "terror" done by Christians is nearly non exisistant and is pretty bizarre to bring up when we're talking about Islam.

Just out of curiosity, are you including organizations such as the Klu klux Klan, Lord's Resistance Army, or Anti-Balaka in this? Look at all the Christian extremist organisations in Africa. Or the attack on planned parenthood clinics in the US .


Islam does not have some soft of monopoly on terrorism. Media just labels them differently and you associate one more with terrorism.

kibbeh 05-16-2016 10:47 PM

when arabs stay and fight for their country (like the iraqis fighting the invaders, USA. or the palestinians fighting the invaders, israel), they are terrorists
when arabs leave and go to the west for a new life, they are invaders and they should stay in the their country and fight for it

i personally think the syrians should stay in syria. just so everyone will shut up and stop complaining about refugees taking over precious lil europe.

kibbeh 05-16-2016 10:58 PM

if you look up the definition of terrorism you will find that it means:

the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

according to the definition of terrorism, not only is ISIS and Hamas terrorists. so is the USA military and israel too. both countries who claim to be fighting these 'terrorists'.

i'm not saying isis is not terrorism, of course they are. but so is the USA. and they have killed WAY more people than isis have.

my point is people overuse the word 'terrorism' without knowing what it really means.

Chula Vista 05-16-2016 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1698774)
if you look up the definition of terrorism you will find that it means:

the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

according to the definition of terrorism, not only is ISIS and Hamas terrorists. so is the USA military and israel too. both countries who claim to be fighting these 'terrorists'.

i'm not saying isis is not terrorism, of course they are. but so is the USA. and they have killed WAY more people than isis have.

my point is people overuse the word 'terrorism' without knowing what it really means.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Google the videos of US military randomly shooting people working in the fields of Iraq all while listening to AC/DC and laughing it up. That scene in Apocalypse Now with the helicopter gunner is the kind of **** that goes down to this day.

I'm just sick of the hypocrisy here in the US.

9/11 was devastating. Biggest gut punch I've ever gotten in my adult life. But you know what, it was telegraphed and we refused to see it. When the US military decided to set up military bases on top off hundreds of acres of Muslim sacred holy lands the wheels were set in motion.

We were warned to get out and we scoffed. Boom. The bomb goes off in the parking garage underneath the towers.

We were warned again and we scoffed. Boom. The bomb goes off that destroys the USS Cole warship anchored in Yemen waters.

Bin Laden sent another ominous warning to get out of the holy lands and the US's ****ing hubris and ego shrugged it off. Boom. 9/11.

Think about this. If the Turkish government decided to set up a military base in the middle of Arlington Cemetary how would this country react?

kibbeh 05-17-2016 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1698777)
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Google the videos of US military randomly shooting people working in the fields of Iraq all while listening to AC/DC and laughing it up. That scene in Apocalypse Now with the helicopter gunner is the kind of **** that goes down to this day.

I'm just sick of the hypocrisy here in the US.

9/11 was devastating. Biggest gut punch I've ever gotten in my adult life. But you know what, it was telegraphed and we refused to see it. When the US military decided to set up military bases on top off hundreds of acres of Muslim sacred holy lands the wheels were set in motion.

We were warned to get out and we scoffed. Boom. The bomb goes off in the parking garage underneath the towers.

We were warned again and we scoffed. Boom. The bomb goes off that destroys the USS Cole warship anchored in Yemen waters.

Bin Laden sent another ominous warning to get out of the holy lands and the US's ****ing hubris and ego shrugged it off. Boom. 9/11.

Think about this. If the Turkish government decided to set up a military base in the middle of Arlington Cemetary how would this country react?

chula vista you are one clever man

Raust 05-17-2016 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lilja (Post 1698770)
Just out of curiosity, are you including organizations such as the Klu klux Klan, Lord's Resistance Army, or Anti-Balaka in this? Look at all the Christian extremist organisations in Africa. Or the attack on planned parenthood clinics in the US .


Islam does not have some soft of monopoly on terrorism. Media just labels them differently and you associate one more with terrorism.

The Kkk who have killed 3 people in the last 20 years and have 5000 members? Thats a good one. I also find it hilarious you brought up the 9 abortion clinic deaths in the US.

Im saying **** those handfull of people you mentioned. Radical muslims are much more of a threat than these so called "christians". Why dont you mention the crusades while your at it how embarassing...

Lilja 05-17-2016 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Raust (Post 1698816)
The Kkk who have killed 3 people in the last 20 years and have 5000 members? Thats a good one. I also find it hilarious you brought up the 9 abortion clinic deaths in the US.

Im saying **** those handfull of people you mentioned. Radical muslims are much more of a threat than these so called "christians". Why dont you mention the crusades while your at it how embarassing...


Death is death. Amount make no difference. Is it preferable that I mention the Bosnian genocide? Is that a better example? And how is the Anti-Balakas forced movement of thousands of muslims considered ok? I don't find any of the examples I mentioned as hilarious. The Lords Resistance Army have killed many in Uganda and the COngo.

kibbeh 05-17-2016 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lilja (Post 1698830)
Death is death. Amount make no difference. Is it preferable that I mention the Bosnian genocide? Is that a better example? And how is the Anti-Balakas forced movement of thousands of muslims considered ok? I don't find any of the examples I mentioned as hilarious. The Lords Resistance Army have killed many in Uganda and the COngo.

they don't care. it didn't happen in murica.

Goofle 05-17-2016 09:35 AM

Amount definitely makes a difference.

kibbeh 05-17-2016 09:45 AM

okay then please compare the million+ killed in iraq to the 3000+ dead on 9/11.

murder is murder. killing for a false god is no worse than killing for money or power or oil.

its still terrorism.

Raust 05-17-2016 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Lilja (Post 1698830)
Death is death. Amount make no difference. Is it preferable that I mention the Bosnian genocide? Is that a better example? And how is the Anti-Balakas forced movement of thousands of muslims considered ok? I don't find any of the examples I mentioned as hilarious. The Lords Resistance Army have killed many in Uganda and the COngo.

Radical Islam is what we are discussing when talking about the refufee crisis. We are not talking about christians we are discussing Islam which is a much larger threat.

kibbeh 05-17-2016 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Raust (Post 1698847)
Radical Islam is what we are discussing when talking about the refufee crisis. We are not talking about christians we are discussing Islam which is a much larger threat.

do you think europe should take in christian syrian refugees?

RoxyRollah 05-17-2016 01:02 PM

Who do you work for^ Tell me who sent you?

kibbeh 05-17-2016 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1698890)
Who do you work for^ Tell me who sent you?

the gay gods

RoxyRollah 05-17-2016 02:04 PM

Dats a lie.^.....

Raust 05-17-2016 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1698852)
do you think europe should take in christian syrian refugees?

Syrian Christian refugees what are you talking about? The refugees they are taking in are from countries which the majority are Islamic. You're seeing countries such as the UK and Germany just to name a couple having no go zones cause of all the crime and violence caused by these refugees it's insane. In the UK they're trying to implement sharia court which if you are pro human rights or pro gender equality you would be against.

This is not to mention that a good percentage of the population don't even know how to read or write when it comes down to the countries where there from, let alone where they're living in Europe. This is already showing an insane amount of reliance from these countries who give out government assistance such as welfare and healthcare, which in turn is wrecking there economy. You have these people taking advantage of Europes system and destroying it.

This issue is more complex than just Islam. It has to deal with where these people come from. They either left cause they screwed up there own country or are fleeing in terror of how ****ed up it is. And now it is the EU's burden to adopt a culture they can't properly assimilate.

Frownland 05-17-2016 02:22 PM

No go zones are pure, 100% falsified propaganda, check your sources mate.


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