The Refugee crisis

Raust · 05-15-2016, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Bullsh*t. What's a couple hundred years in the grand scheme of human history? Extremist religious fervor has always caused people to do the worst to the unbelievers. Today it happens to be Islam. At one time it was Christianity. And let me tell you, those extreme Christians of that time were sadistic ****s. They didn't have guns or explosives so that had to be a bit more "creative".

We're talking about Islamic fundamentalism and you want to talk about Christianity and all the **** they've done. We're not dealing the inquisition here or the guillotine (I suppose if you want to include beheading apostates). I'm criticizing Islam cause of all the horrific **** it's brought to the 21st century the world that we live in today.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

And there it is. You've come out of the closet.

Come out of the closet? Religion is backwards and stupid what the hell are you talking about? There is absolutely nothing wrong with criticizing a set of ideas one of which we are talking about is the horse **** which is Islam.

Paul Smeenus · 05-15-2016, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Raust

Ha the not all argument. Yes I'm well aware there are billions of muslims in the world. And yes I also understand that the vast majority are peaceful. I'm sure we're not going to discuss how backwards of a religion it is in the first place, but that's alright. However, the fundamentalists of the religion the jihadists the terrorist groups commit an insane amount of terror killing 1000's of people a year. There are literally hundreds of thousands of muslims who are associated with these fundamentalist terror organizations such as Isis, Boku Horum, Hamas ect. What is also terrifying is the fact that hundreds of millions of muslims which you I suppose would classify as "fundamentalists" support such groups and suicide bombings/martyrdom. It is a problem that is simply getting out of hand. It's also quiet problematic cause there's no easy solution unfortunately. Christianity is a joke the "terror" done by Christians is nearly non exisistant and is pretty bizarre to bring up when we're talking about Islam.

Christianity is EVERY BIT as backwards as Islam. I conceded already that fundamentalist Islam is the most violent, certainly in the 21st century.

By the way, there are these things called "paragraphs".

Raust · 05-15-2016, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus

Christianity is EVERY BIT as backwards as Islam. I conceded already that fundamentalist Islam is the most violent, certainly in the 21st century.

By the way, there are these things called "paragraphs".

Sorry bro been reading to much House of Leaves.

Lilja · 05-16-2016, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Raust

Christianity is a joke the "terror" done by Christians is nearly non exisistant and is pretty bizarre to bring up when we're talking about Islam.

Just out of curiosity, are you including organizations such as the Klu klux Klan, Lord's Resistance Army, or Anti-Balaka in this? Look at all the Christian extremist organisations in Africa. Or the attack on planned parenthood clinics in the US .

Islam does not have some soft of monopoly on terrorism. Media just labels them differently and you associate one more with terrorism.

kibbeh · 05-16-2016, 11:47 PM

when arabs stay and fight for their country (like the iraqis fighting the invaders, USA. or the palestinians fighting the invaders, israel), they are terrorists
when arabs leave and go to the west for a new life, they are invaders and they should stay in the their country and fight for it

i personally think the syrians should stay in syria. just so everyone will shut up and stop complaining about refugees taking over precious lil europe.

kibbeh · 05-16-2016, 11:58 PM

if you look up the definition of terrorism you will find that it means:

the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

according to the definition of terrorism, not only is ISIS and Hamas terrorists. so is the USA military and israel too. both countries who claim to be fighting these 'terrorists'.

i'm not saying isis is not terrorism, of course they are. but so is the USA. and they have killed WAY more people than isis have.

my point is people overuse the word 'terrorism' without knowing what it really means.

Chula Vista · 05-17-2016, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69

if you look up the definition of terrorism you will find that it means:

the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

according to the definition of terrorism, not only is ISIS and Hamas terrorists. so is the USA military and israel too. both countries who claim to be fighting these 'terrorists'.

i'm not saying isis is not terrorism, of course they are. but so is the USA. and they have killed WAY more people than isis have.

my point is people overuse the word 'terrorism' without knowing what it really means.

Google the videos of US military randomly shooting people working in the fields of Iraq all while listening to AC/DC and laughing it up. That scene in Apocalypse Now with the helicopter gunner is the kind of **** that goes down to this day.

I'm just sick of the hypocrisy here in the US.

9/11 was devastating. Biggest gut punch I've ever gotten in my adult life. But you know what, it was telegraphed and we refused to see it. When the US military decided to set up military bases on top off hundreds of acres of Muslim sacred holy lands the wheels were set in motion.

We were warned to get out and we scoffed. Boom. The bomb goes off in the parking garage underneath the towers.

We were warned again and we scoffed. Boom. The bomb goes off that destroys the USS Cole warship anchored in Yemen waters.

Bin Laden sent another ominous warning to get out of the holy lands and the US's ****ing hubris and ego shrugged it off. Boom. 9/11.

Think about this. If the Turkish government decided to set up a military base in the middle of Arlington Cemetary how would this country react?

kibbeh · 05-17-2016, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Google the videos of US military randomly shooting people working in the fields of Iraq all while listening to AC/DC and laughing it up. That scene in Apocalypse Now with the helicopter gunner is the kind of **** that goes down to this day.

I'm just sick of the hypocrisy here in the US.

9/11 was devastating. Biggest gut punch I've ever gotten in my adult life. But you know what, it was telegraphed and we refused to see it. When the US military decided to set up military bases on top off hundreds of acres of Muslim sacred holy lands the wheels were set in motion.

We were warned to get out and we scoffed. Boom. The bomb goes off in the parking garage underneath the towers.

We were warned again and we scoffed. Boom. The bomb goes off that destroys the USS Cole warship anchored in Yemen waters.

Bin Laden sent another ominous warning to get out of the holy lands and the US's ****ing hubris and ego shrugged it off. Boom. 9/11.

Think about this. If the Turkish government decided to set up a military base in the middle of Arlington Cemetary how would this country react?

chula vista you are one clever man

Raust · 05-17-2016, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lilja

Just out of curiosity, are you including organizations such as the Klu klux Klan, Lord's Resistance Army, or Anti-Balaka in this? Look at all the Christian extremist organisations in Africa. Or the attack on planned parenthood clinics in the US .

Islam does not have some soft of monopoly on terrorism. Media just labels them differently and you associate one more with terrorism.

The Kkk who have killed 3 people in the last 20 years and have 5000 members? Thats a good one. I also find it hilarious you brought up the 9 abortion clinic deaths in the US.

Im saying **** those handfull of people you mentioned. Radical muslims are much more of a threat than these so called "christians". Why dont you mention the crusades while your at it how embarassing...

Lilja · 05-17-2016, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Raust

The Kkk who have killed 3 people in the last 20 years and have 5000 members? Thats a good one. I also find it hilarious you brought up the 9 abortion clinic deaths in the US.

Im saying **** those handfull of people you mentioned. Radical muslims are much more of a threat than these so called "christians". Why dont you mention the crusades while your at it how embarassing...

Death is death. Amount make no difference. Is it preferable that I mention the Bosnian genocide? Is that a better example? And how is the Anti-Balakas forced movement of thousands of muslims considered ok? I don't find any of the examples I mentioned as hilarious. The Lords Resistance Army have killed many in Uganda and the COngo.

05-16-2016, 11:47 PM	#185 (permalink)
kibbeh kibbeh Join Date: May 2016 Location: nowhere Posts: 648	when arabs stay and fight for their country (like the iraqis fighting the invaders, USA. or the palestinians fighting the invaders, israel), they are terrorists when arabs leave and go to the west for a new life, they are invaders and they should stay in the their country and fight for it i personally think the syrians should stay in syria. just so everyone will shut up and stop complaining about refugees taking over precious lil europe.

05-16-2016, 11:58 PM	#186 (permalink)
kibbeh kibbeh Join Date: May 2016 Location: nowhere Posts: 648	if you look up the definition of terrorism you will find that it means: the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. according to the definition of terrorism, not only is ISIS and Hamas terrorists. so is the USA military and israel too. both countries who claim to be fighting these 'terrorists'. i'm not saying isis is not terrorism, of course they are. but so is the USA. and they have killed WAY more people than isis have. my point is people overuse the word 'terrorism' without knowing what it really means.