Male Gender Roles and How They Specifically Affect Men

The Batlord · 05-07-2015, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Oh really? Do you strawberry shampoo and conditioner? It's ok to admit it, this is guy thread, the ladies won't find out.

I wash my hair with rusty nails and your mother's drippings.

Neapolitan · 05-07-2015, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering

meh.

kbye.

ditto

The Batlord · 05-07-2015, 01:29 AM

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 05-07-2015, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Disclaimer: Anyone is free to chyme in, but I'm more interested in the male point of view, as -- no offense -- but, as a male, I wouldn't really be as qualified as a woman to comment on traditional female gender roles and expectations either.

Anywho, I'm not one to be particularly concerned with male gender roles: I don't really care to involve myself with traditional male activities, such as sports, even though I certainly appreciate the competitive aspect, and can enjoy the testosterone rush and camaraderie of actually participating in physically demanding team sports on occasion; I have no invested interest in defining myself as a man, even though I certainly consider my one, due to my lack of non-male or gender neutral "feelings", or whatever such notions runs through those peoples' heads; and while I'd consider myself heterosexual if pressed to define my sexuality, I feel no inclination to remain "loyal" to my "straightness" (While I'm really not attracted to men, I don't see the problem with engaging in a little recreational, same-sex friction if I were in an adventurous mood and the opportunity presented itself.)

But of course, even in many the most enlightened circles, there's still a certain, unspoken expectation that men conform to at least some traditional male attributes. Whether it be not hitting women, avoiding playing the "female role" in a relationship, maintaining that wall of manly stoicism that precludes crying or talking too much about your feelings, etc.

Then of course there are the more mainstream societal expectations that are even more restrictive. Having worked more than a few minimum wage jobs where my fellow male employees would have looked at me like an alien had I ever showed up listening to Britney Spears on an iPod, or claimed to be straight while still having had sex with a dude, I know that it's nearly impossible to integrate yourself into certain male subcultures without being "one of them", or at least pretending to. I listen to music that would make your average dude's look like Celine Dion, and objectify women and their naked boobies as much as the next straight dude, and yet that would simply be ignored in light of Britney and a night of drunken dick sucking.

Fight Club expressed this tension pretty well. Men are supposed to be more enlightened in this day and age, while still being expected to conform to old stereotypes that conflict with the new standards, and the issue is further muddied because of those ingrained instincts for men to be hunters and warriors, ready to commit violence at a moment's notice. I know it's hard to be a woman in a man's world, but it's also quite a headache to be a man in a world that doesn't even know what men are supposed to be anymore. It's like, can we just make up our minds already? I'd like to **** bitches and watch General Hospital in peace already.

just read the op

sounds like you're either bi or gay and you repress it because it's not a good look for you socially

The Batlord · 05-07-2015, 01:55 AM

Nah, I've never been attracted to men. I'm not attracted to my right hand either, but that doesn't stop me from using it for my own nefarious purposes when the need arises.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 05-07-2015, 02:02 AM

right, but what made you want to suck a dick when you were drunk?

The Batlord · 05-07-2015, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

right, but what made you want to suck a dick when you were drunk?

The opportunity arose and I figured why not? I didn't pursue it, the guy basically said, "Wanna ****", and so I did. Maybe I have some bi tendencies, but if so, it's a very small percent.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 05-07-2015, 02:39 AM

yea i guess that's pretty straight of you batlord

STRAIGHT STRAIGHT!

The Batlord · 05-07-2015, 02:52 AM

Well if I have to have to clean record just to be straight, then I guess I've failed the requirements.

RoxyRollah · 05-07-2015, 04:37 AM

So, my darling are you stating that you don't buy into the traditional hobbies of a man therefore making you for lack of a better term "a girly man"...(By societies standards of course.)

Because if that was the intent of the op then I say this in response.

I have never thought that liking sports, not asking for directions, or chopping down trees while wearing flannel and rocking a beard makes a guy manly. Those are just interests, occupations, stubbornness, and or hobbies. I have always thought that what makes a man a man is, how he takes care of his family, (traditional or otherwise.) his ability to take responsibility for mistakes, knowing when he's wrong and being able to admit it. And the ability to protect his and his own. That's what man is to me. I dunno, society has carved out the blue print of how a man 'should' act while attaching it's own ideas as to what hobbies should go along with it. Do I think it's right? Meh... But I have known plenty of guys that don't fit the normal mold of manhood, but I wouldn't dare suggest that they are less of a man then those that do, because these men, '' des girly men" are some bad motha****as and they don't need traditonal gender roles to prove it.

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05-07-2015, 02:02 AM	#56 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	right, but what made you want to suck a dick when you were drunk?

05-07-2015, 02:39 AM	#58 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	yea i guess that's pretty straight of you batlord STRAIGHT STRAIGHT!