John Wilkes Booth

GuD

In response to the threads' title,

I wasn't ever socialized as male. I was raised by my mom, who was often absent as a parent, and her friends- almost all of whom were gay adult women with ****ed up family histories. I was pretty much left alone to my own devices most of the time and any sense of masculinity I've ever known was just me imitating what I felt was expected of me by my peers. I've consequently picked up some mannerisms and mentalities over the years that now deeply upset and offend me. I experience gender dysphoria on a daily basis and often feel out of place in my body but at the same time behave in ways that are very male. I don't know what it means to be a man in this world, probably because I never met a man who made sense to me.

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DwnWthVwls

Pretty sure you have sex and gender confused Batlord. Did you mean masculine gender roles? Males/females don't have specific gender roles.

http://itspronouncedmetrosexual.com/...m-definitions/

*Devil's Advocate*

So if someone says they identify as a dog is it okay for them to bang dogs? Are they delusional? Where is the identity line drawn(if at all) and who gets to draw it?

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GuD

last i checked dog isn't a gender...

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DwnWthVwls

So because there isn't a word specifically designated to being attracted to dogs it's not valid?

Why don't you answer the idea behind the question instead of dodging what it's intended to make you think about.

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John Wilkes Booth

when was the last time you checked? you might be a bit out of the loop. they're coming up with new genders every day it seems.

GuD

Caninephilia, perhaps? A more specific subsection of bestiality?

Bestiality is an issue of consent. A dog might not object to sex with a human but it's still taking advantage. I liken it to taking home women who are too drunk to say no or think about whether or not they actually want to sleep with you.

I'm not dodging anything I just don't see the relationship between bestiality and a person identifying as a gender different from what's considered the norm of their sex.

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ladyislingering

My only biologically-related sister came out to me recently as genderqueer.

The first thing I said was "what are your preferred pronouns?"

Gender is a fluid concept, but it's also very emotional and personal and I think everyone struggling with gender dysphoria would appreciate being taken seriously.

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The Batlord

No. Gender is brain chemistry, and/or whatever other biological processes create it. If you're born male, but claim to be a woman, even though that doesn't jibe with what actually makes you whatever gender you are, then you're delusional. If a transgender male-to-female's brain/body/whatever chemistry are actually out of whack with how they were born, then yeah, they are female (at least according to modern scientific understanding).

Gender isn't a claim, it is a scientific fact, and facts can't just be declared however you want them to be.

And I'm pretty sure you have my points confused. The OP was about gender roles, but my later posts were about sex. I'm all about not conforming to gender roles, if that's your disposition.

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Frownland

He probably checked before tumblr happened.

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