2016 Presidential Race Thread

[Josef K]

Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

Your right, thanks for the correction. There has been so much hype around Elizabeth Warren that I assumed that she had put her hat in the race.

I guess that makes it less of a race. Saunders of course won't win, but at least now there is someone notable on the ticket, I like O Malley, but I don't think the American public knows who he is.

I can't imagine who would beat Jeb Bush in the primaries, both Scott Walker and Chris Christie are unlikable dicks, Marco Rubio doesn't have the stature of Bush, and the Libertarian wing of the party isn't large enough to propel Rand Paul to the nomination. Likewise, same with the social conservative base for Mike Huckabee. So???

Yeah, the Republican primary is gonna be weird because there's no real next in line like there has been... shit, since, like, Eisenhower. I keep dismissing everyone with "oh, they won't win", but somebody has to. Jeb has a ton of money but the party might wary of nominating another Bush, but you're right that he's probably the most likely candidate, or Walker is. I'm really not sure anyone can walk the tightrope of being conservative enough for the base but moderate enough to win the general, and I think Bush runs the risk of doing the opposite of Romney - he's made some pretty liberal overtures on immigration specifically, IIRC. Walker could get nominated - I'd love to see a Walker/Bush ticket, if just for the name, but I don't think it'll happen.

[William_the_Bloody]

Originally Posted by Josef K

I'm really not sure anyone can walk the tightrope of being conservative enough for the base but moderate enough to win the general, and I think Bush runs the risk of doing the opposite of Romney - he's made some pretty liberal overtures on immigration specifically

That is an interesting point when you take into account that Rudy Giuliani was considered to liberal to win the nomination.

I think that a Bush/Rubio ticket would help nail down a lot of the Hispanic vote, but it would most likely leave white republicans sitting on their hands come voting time, so who knows, maybe Bush/Cheney ticket part 2 lol.

[Josef K]

Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

That is an interesting point when you take into account that Rudy Giuliani was considered to liberal to win the nomination.

I think that a Bush/Rubio ticket would help nail down a lot of the Hispanic vote, but it would most likely leave white republicans sitting on their hands come voting time, so who knows, maybe Bush/Cheney ticket part 2 lol.

Bush and Rubio are both from Florida, so that couldn't happen unless Bush were to change his residency somehow, which seems implausible.

[William_the_Bloody]

I see, makes sense. I imagine Bush will pick someone outside the primaries to be his running mate. I initially thought Colin Powell would be a good choice, but in hindsight, the further he stays away from his brothers legacy the better his odds.

The real question mark for me is who will be Hillary's running mate?

Former general Wesley Clarke might be a good choice, his appointment would signal a shift away from Obama's foreign policy, former governor Bill Richardson would be another good one, but if I had my way I'd choose old man Jerry Brown!!!

[Chula Vista]

Colin Powell endorsed Obama in 2008. No way he's going to ever live than down with the GOP base.

[William_the_Bloody]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Colin Powell endorsed Obama in 2008. No way he's going to ever live than down with the GOP base.

Yes I had thought of that, it would definitely stir up some controversy at the Republican National Convention, but I think that could be easily spun in the right direction considering he was an African American endorsing the first black President. Either way I don't think it will happen, nor do I think it would be a good choice.

My initial thought was that he would be a magnet for independent and swing voters, and to an extend, African Americans who will most likely be less energized to go out and vote for Hillary as they did Obama. Unfortunately I think anyone associated with the second Bush regime is too toxic for the general public, and therefore not a good choice.

I think Bush will most likely pick a respectable and successful candidate from the outside that has a good track record but not much publicity.

If it was any other country I honestly would have written the right off for about 20 years, but you guys have a very resilient Conservative base down there.

Anyways if I was American I would be voting Dem, cheers.

[The Batlord]

Colin Powell wasn't really all that high profile, and the person most associated with his office under Bush is Condoleza Rice. To be perfectly honest, I don't think the majority of the American public even remembers that he was Bush's first Secretary of State. I don't even know that reminding everyone that was will register all that much with most people.

[William_the_Bloody]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Colin Powell wasn't really all that high profile, and the person most associated with his office under Bush is Condoleza Rice. To be perfectly honest, I don't think the majority of the American public even remembers that he was Bush's first Secretary of State. I don't even know that reminding everyone that was will register all that much with most people.

You don't think Colin Powell was high profile, he was huge, and unlike Condoleezza Rice he still has credibility with the general public for resigning his post as Secretary of State for his discontent with the administration.

Anyways doesn't matter, neither of the two will be chosen for Bush the 3rd's running mate.

[Chula Vista]

Heh, heh.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Heh, heh.

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