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Old 06-22-2015, 05:45 AM   #151 (permalink)
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Hence why I don't vote. Participating in a broken system does nothing but reinforce it.
And not participating really does nothing. It's true that voting for the president is basically a symbolic gesture because of the electoral college, but voting for congress and in state and local elections does actually give you some say in things.

Edit: Also, hence means "that is why" so when you say "hence why" you're saying "that is why why".
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:03 AM   #152 (permalink)
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I usually agree with Batlord, but we've never really had a candidate like Sanders before. I'm voting this cycle.
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:58 AM   #153 (permalink)
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Edit: Also, hence means "that is why" so when you say "hence why" you're saying "that is why why".
I know, but "Hence, I don't vote" just sounds so awkward.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:11 AM   #154 (permalink)
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I know, but "Hence, I don't vote" just sounds so awkward.
It just sounds correct to me. "Hence why" makes you sound like you're on the level of people who say "drownded".
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:14 AM   #155 (permalink)
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I usually agree with Batlord, but we've never really had a candidate like Sanders before. I'm voting this cycle.
Henry Wallace in '44, Claude Pepper in '48, Hubert Humphrey and Estes Kefauver in '52, Kefauver in '56, Wayne Morse in '60, Eugene McCarthy in '68. Since the modern primary system began (post McGovern-Fraser): I guess Fred Harris and Shirley Chisholm in '72, Frank Church, Jerry Brown, and Harris in '76, maybe Jesse Jackson in '84 and '88, I guess Tom Harkin in '92, Bill Bradley in 2000, Howard Dean and Dennis Kucinich in '04, Kucinich in '08.

I mean, none of these are exactly like Sanders, but they're all people who ran to the left or ran populist campaigns in the Democratic primary (with the exception of Wallace).

ETA: Obviously that should've been Wallace and Pepper in '48. Brain fart.

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Old 06-22-2015, 11:17 AM   #156 (permalink)
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It just sounds correct to me. "Hence why" makes you sound like you're on the level of people who say "drownded".
If it's good enough for hobbits, then by Eru it's good enough for me.
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Henry Wallace in '44, Claude Pepper in '48, Hubert Humphrey and Estes Kefauver in '52, Kefauver in '56, Wayne Morse in '60, Eugene McCarthy in '68. Since the modern primary system began (post McGovern-Fraser): I guess Fred Harris and Shirley Chisholm in '72, Frank Church, Jerry Brown, and Harris in '76, maybe Jesse Jackson in '84 and '88, I guess Tom Harkin in '92, Bill Bradley in 2000, Howard Dean and Dennis Kucinich in '04, Kucinich in '08.

I mean, none of these are exactly like Sanders, but they're all people who ran to the left or ran populist campaigns in the Democratic primary (with the exception of Wallace).
I was being centric to my generation. Of course there's a lot of people who hold the same stance as Sanders, but I've never noticed any of them, leading me to believe that they were fringe with respet to the voting population. Whereas Bernie actually appears to have momentum.
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I was being centric to my generation. Of course there's a lot of people who hold the same stance as Sanders, but I've never noticed any of them, leading me to believe that they were fringe with respet to the voting population. Whereas Bernie actually appears to have momentum.
How old are you? I was eight in 2008 and I knew who Dennis Kucinich was. Sanders only seems to have more momentum because he's the only candidate in the Democratic Primary besides Clinton (and I guess O'Malley and Webb, but who gives a shit) so there are fewer people to focus on.
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bro i'm pretty sure you were the only 8 year old on the planet that gave a **** about who dennis kucinich is

when i was 8 bill clinton was president

and all i knew about him was that he was considered kind of cool for getting his dick sucked in the oval office
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bro i'm pretty sure you were the only 8 year old on the planet that gave a **** about who dennis kucinich is

when i was 8 bill clinton was president

and all i knew about him was that he was considered kind of cool for getting his dick sucked in the oval office
Ah, the innocence of youth.
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