2016 Presidential Race Thread

[Xurtio]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yeah, that all sounds great, but what exactly are the specifics of how he is going to change the economy in a realistic fashion that won't tank it? All I saw were vague goals, but without any actual plans.

Hes's not considered a socialist for no reason. His plan is pretty simple to understand: tax the rich and reduce war spending. Implementation, of course, is another story (but again, that goes for every candidate).

[Josef K]

Originally Posted by Xurtio

Hes's not considered a socialist for no reason. His plan is pretty simple to understand: tax the rich and reduce war spending. Implementation, of course, is another story (but again, that goes for every candidate).

This is not what socialism is.

[Xurtio]

Yes, socialism is a diverse set of political structures and Bernie is a Democratic Socialist. But in the US, taxing the rich and "giving to the poor" (expanding social spending) is called "socialism" as a pejorative.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Moss

And that is different from which candidate?

The more extreme your views, the more likely your policies are to **** **** up. I'll take an incompetent moderate over an incompetent zealot any day.

[Chula Vista]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

The more extreme your views, the more likely your policies are to **** **** up. I'll take an incompetent moderate over an incompetent zealot any day.

So, how'd ya vote in the most recent elections?

Clinton vs Bush
Clinton vs Dole
Bush vs Gore
Bush vs Kerry
Obama vs McCain
Obama vs Romney

Do tell.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Chula Vista

So, how'd ya vote in the most recent elections?

[B]Clinton vs Bush
Clinton vs Dole
Bush vs Gore
Bush vs Kerry
Obama vs McCain
Obama vs Romney

Do tell.

What is this supposed to be about? Pretty much all those people were relatively moderate as far as I can remember.

[Moss]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

What is this supposed to be about? Pretty much all those people were relatively moderate as far as I can remember.

At the end of the day it does not matter what Bernie thinks because he has no chance. As you have pointed out, only moderates really get the nod for the general election. The tilt to the right in the Republican party is going to kill them because when it comes time to vote, most people are going to agree with you, the moderate is always a safer bet than the zealot.

Bernie is too out there so Clinton will get the nod. I guess I'm willing to take a chance on a zealot to see if things could really change. I don't know if a hard left candidate would make things better but as I see the Koch brothers, Goldman Sachs, etc... owning the economy I'm willing to see what could happen with someone like Bernie. It just won't happen.

[The Batlord]

As much as the current state of business/government incest is concerned, I'd rather have unpalatable stability than the possible economic collapse brought on by some idealist with more vim and vigor than business sense. Let's have intelligent progress rather than just say, "Hey! That guy I just heard about a few months ago doesn't like the same things I don't like! Let's all vote for him and pray to God he has half a clue!"

[Chula Vista]

And now The Donald is in. Can not wait for the primary debates to begin.

[Trollheart]

Are you guys serious? A third Bush is gonna get a crack at bringing yiz all to the brink of financial collapse? Is anyone actually going to swallow that?