2016 Presidential Race Thread

[Psy-Fi]

Originally Posted by Moss

Yeah, I really look forward to his debates. I just think he is too out there for most people. It's sad but his crazy hair and demeanor and things turn too many people off. And he will get tagged with the "socialist" label which will scare everybody off as well.

He's a self-described "Democratic Socialist" so I don't think he minds the label.

I'll go out on a limb and predict he'll be about as successful in his Presidential bid as he was in his musical efforts...

https://soundcloud.com/todd-r-lockwo...r-land-preview

https://soundcloud.com/todd-r-lockwo...ercome-preview

[Josef K]

Originally Posted by Moss

I'm torn on the Bernie issue. I was one of those people that voted for Nader instead of Gore and handed the presidency to W. That turned out to be a disaster.

I mean if Bush hadn't stolen the election Gore would've won notwithstanding Nader. But this is another reason to support ditching FPTP - spoilers really ought not to be a thing.

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

lol why would you think bernie sanders has even the remotest chance of becoming prez

democrats/leftists are delusional as usual

I don't think most Democrats and/or leftists think he has a chance; I certainly don't. I think Isbjork is an outlier. (Also he's not a socialist. Just gonna throw that out there.)

Originally Posted by Isbjørn

Yeah, stupid Red Scare. But I'm optimistic. His down-to-earth attitude and ability to speak will get him lots of support during the debates, and then maybe he'll have a shot in the primary. Maybe.

Lol "ability to speak". We're never electing somebody that Jewish.

[Josef K]

Originally Posted by Psy-Fi

He's a self-described "Democratic Socialist" so I don't think he minds the label.

I'll go out on a limb and predict he'll be about as successful in his Presidential bid as he was in his musical efforts...

https://soundcloud.com/todd-r-lockwo...r-land-preview

https://soundcloud.com/todd-r-lockwo...ercome-preview

Haha that's awesome. Loving the ska vibes.

[John Wilkes Booth]

Originally Posted by Isbjørn

What do you mean? There have been fifteen Democratic presidents versus eighteen Republican ones. I don't see that as a tremendous difference. And Bernie supporters in general seem to be more hopeful than convinced, which is reasonable. Gerrymanderers, Congress, corporate media etc. will make it as hard for Bernie as they can, sure, but that's not a reason to stop supporting him.

I have a question for you. Forget about the odds for a minute, do you agree with Sanders on the issues?

no, i have a question for you. do you actually live inside msnbc?

[John Wilkes Booth]

nah.. serious answer cause i don't want to be a dick like that.. i don't know his stance on each individual issue. give me his mission statement or whatever.

[Isbjørn]

Originally Posted by Josef K

(Also he's not a socialist. Just gonna throw that out there.)

He calls himself as a democratic socialist, /r/socialism calls him a social democrat instead of a socialist, but I don't really care. The issues are what matters.

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

nah.. serious answer cause i don't want to be a dick like that.. i don't know his stance on each individual issue. give me his mission statement or whatever.

From his campaign's official subreddit: 12 Point Platform

[John Wilkes Booth]

Originally Posted by Isbjørn

He calls himself as a democratic socialist, /r/socialism calls him a social democrat instead of a socialist, but I don't really care. The issues are what matters.



From his campaign's official subreddit: 12 Point Platform

yea, he's a pretty good promise maker. it'd be interesting to see those policies actually go into effect.

[Isbjørn]

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

yea, he's a pretty good promise maker. it'd be interesting to see those policies actually go into effect.

If he becomes president and his promises don't come into effect, it certainly won't be his fault. His voting record looks great. The problem is that the president can do jack **** without support from Congress. I'd rather see little get done than nothing at all, though.

[John Wilkes Booth]

yea... that, plus to me some of those policies just seem like they would be disastrous if he tried to implement them. like 'taking on wall st'... are you kidding me? this guy would just alienate the rich and make them even more determined to stamp out any residual socialist sentiment leftover from the fdr era. and the trade policy would probably **** up the global economy.

[John Wilkes Booth]

i've been watching this bernie guy speak. you know he's pretty much everything i would've wanted in a candidate when i believed the political system could work for good.. aside from the aesthetics and pageantry.

i don't want to sap the enthusiasm of the youth or whatever. i feel like you should keep doing what you're doing @ any young riled up politically active people