Ninetales

maybe "innocent black guy gets killed by police" isn't just a singular event anymore, but something that seems to be a headline every week or so. so talking about this new one as an isolated event is dumb as hell. especially the way you've put it where, well, they'll be another black murder tomorrow so why fret?

buddy, that's the god damn point.

and to your post about "why care when it probably wont happen to most people on mb" - empathy. man ive had my disagreements with soulflower but good lord I am kinda forced on her side here (or atleast im not on the other fucking side).

Key

Ironically you continue to respond to my supposed trolling.

Key

To the first part of your post,I didn't mention anything about race. I said 'another event will take all the media attention'. Not sure why everything has to turn to race, especially when I don't consider any of this to be a race problem.

It's not about empathy though, it's about realizing that the time we're spending talking about this issue on an internet forum where the people who want to fix the problem won't even see it seems very pointless to me. If this happened to someone I knew, of course I'd feel bad, but talking about it here does absolutely nothing.

Frownland

Every opinion that is not my own is clearly the work of a troll.

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Soulflower

Yep I am giving you the attention you crave since you won't leave.

Trollheart

I'm actually quite shocked that you would say that Ki. Why do you think the issue is dumb? Black guys are getting killed, let them? Surely you're not that insensitive? "I'm all right Jack, keep your hands off my stack"?
He's being treated that way because he's belittling the very events that are taking place by shrugging and saying "**** happens". He might as well say, so young girls are getting kidnapped by Boca Harum (sp?) and sold into slavery: so what? **** happens!" It's a godawful attitude to have in my opinion and I don't think it's worthy of him.
Here I have to agree with Ki. You can't keep changing the goalposts, and you are a world class goalpost shifter. This is another example of that. First you say this

and then you backtrack by saying this
You simply can't have it both ways. If you make a mistake or are caught in a logical trap then you should hold your hands up and say, yes, I was wrong there. You can then go on to explain that what you meant was this, but you have to first admit that you were not clear on, or were too general in, your original post.

It's the same as you did with the "why are current artists not concerned about social issues" thread. When I pointed out some that were, you changed the criteria by saying you meant pop artists, but that was in no way decipherable or clear from your original post. It's just, you know, what you do and what you have become known for doing here: you seem to think we can all climb into your head and see what you're thinking, or that we should be able to know automatically what you mean when your meaning is not clear, or at least open to interpretation.

I'm also concerned by your use of the blunt phrase "You are wrong". Who are you to say anyone is wrong? Unless it's an absolute, like someone saying the sky is green, you can't and you should not assume that you are right and thy are wrong. You can say I don't agree, or I think you're wrong, but YOU ARE WRONG is perhaps the worst form of condescending arrogance that really, I'm sorry to say, populates most of your posts and most of your threads, so that in the end, people really know what you're going to write before your write it.

Finally, I have noticed, in all your threads, that you only ever give credit to, agree with or validate an opinion of someone who agrees with you or sides with you. I have never (ever) seen you say "that's a good point but I don't agree" or "You may have a case there" or (god forbid) "I never thought of it that way." All of which goes to create the impression (true or not) that you are arrogant, condescending, one-sided, blinkered and display a total refusal to entertain any opinion other than yours.

I know this does not contribute to the thread or answer your question, but honestly, my comments could refer or apply to any of your threads, and sadly (as I think you have a lot to give to a discussion if you didn't make it such a high-handed lecture, as you always seem to do) this makes the title of the thread more appropriate if it were to read: "Why do people never take Soulflower seriously?"

Food for thought? As if...

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YorkeDaddy

And now she's either going to completely ignore Trollheart's sublime torching of her ass or she's going to call him an ignorant racist. Can't wait to see what happens!!!

On a side note: I actually do think there's serious issues here and Ki should take them a little more seriously

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classic trollheart

Trollheart

Well it's Pink Floyd, but I'll take the credit...

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And I'll let you, just so Pink Floyd doesn't get any.

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