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Key 04-29-2015 09:52 PM

If it makes people feel better, I'll stay out of this thread. Didnt realize we had so many sensitive members when it comes to a topic that doesn't effect any of them.

The Batlord 04-29-2015 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WhateverDude (Post 1583509)
I totes forgot to respond to the question-

I haven't read most of the thread but I think the issue is people have a hard time empathizing with things they don't understand. And they don't understand because they're complacent and comfortable and being confronted by major issues upsets that and makes them feel accused. And instead of recognizing the effect of their apathy they get defensive because it's easier not to care.

To be fair, most black people I've ever known have been mostly concerned with their own bubbles live too.

GuD 04-29-2015 10:03 PM

That's the point of the thread though- to boil it down instead of turning yourself off to the issue and attempting to discredit the discussion why doesn't it effect you that others are being discriminated against?

Neapolitan 04-29-2015 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1583525)
If it makes people feel better, I'll stay out of this thread. Didnt realize we had so many sensitive members when it comes to a topic that doesn't effect any of them.

I don't see point at getting annoyed at Ki for participating in this thread when the part of the thread title is "Why do people get annoyed...?" I think we can equally ask "Why do people get annoyed at people who have a minority (or less popular) opinion about social issues?" I don't think Ki should be treated like a second class citizen for his opinions or his approach to the issues.

Janszoon 04-29-2015 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1583505)
But that's the thing.... times are not different because we can clearly see that the same issues that took place in the 60's still are going on today.

Racism and social issues that revolve around how institutions, corporations, law enforcement, politics etc confront this issue is still the same.

The problem with today's so called leaders it that, we don't have any real leaders that really want to change the community for the better. Most of these so called leaders just care about money and status.

There is no reason why there cant be leaders willing to risk their life and fight for the civil rights of black people like leaders did during the 60's.



But you implied that it is not as institutionalized and the opposite of institutionalized racism is overt racism and if that is not what you meant than you could have clarified that point better.




You are wrong.


It is more institutionalized now compared to the past. In the past, most of the racism was expressed explicitly through hangings, shootings, harassment and other forms of physical aggression.


Institutionalized racism does not only specifically consists of laws. It consists of the way jobs are created, classism, socioeconomic status, implicit forms of racism, i.e. standardized testing (biased testing implemented to weed out minorities who lack education on certain areas), job discrimination (i.e. picking a white person over a black person who is equally qualified) those types of issues reflect in institutionalized racism which is why those things are implemented. They keep minorities in the low socioeconomic class although it is not overtly expressed like it once was.

It is more institutionalized now because there is no longer segregation so they weed out minorities in a different way.






You gave more importance over "being an example" as the the resolution and if that is not what you meant you definitely implied it. But yes in conjuction to being a good role model, there needs to be someone actively make changes in the community.

Also, while I agree there are more minorities in policy compared to the 60's, there are still not an abundance of minorities in political positions. That is still an area that minority presence is still lacking.




If you read my first few posts I said that black youth rioted during the 60's as well. That point has already been made.

However, in today's generation, there are no black leaders to step in to re-direct the youth and guide them when these racial issues arise.

You know what? Forget it. It's obvious you're not even bothering to read anything I write so there's no point even having a conversation.

YorkeDaddy 04-29-2015 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1583531)
You know what? Forget it. It's obvious you're not even bothering to read anything I write so there's no point even having a conversation.

Soulflower not reading what people are saying and ranting about the same things over and over as if her views are the only possibly valid ones?!

Shocking development, no one and I mean no one could've seen that coming out of her

GuD 04-29-2015 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1583528)
To be fair, most black people I've ever known have been mostly concerned with their own bubbles live too.

I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to convey with this statement. Because some black people you know don't care about issues that don't effect them you shouldn't either? Is that what you're getting at?

Musicwhore A-Z 04-29-2015 10:15 PM

In my opinion, some people are simply afraid to confront it. Dialogue is ALWAYS important. I attended a lecture last weekend entitled 'Race and Democracy' in a church hosted by CNN's Anderson Cooper. Roughly 1200 people showed up. I wish more of these took place. If nothing else, it's a start. It affects ALL of us. Interesting topic ( :wave: ).

The Batlord 04-29-2015 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WhateverDude (Post 1583534)
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to convey with this statement. Because some black people you know don't care about issues that don't effect them you shouldn't either? Is that what you're getting at?

No, you said that people don't care because it doesn't affect them, and I'm pointing out that people don't care about much of anything.

Neapolitan 04-29-2015 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1583539)
No, you said that people don't care because it doesn't affect them, and I'm pointing out that people don't care about much of anything.

Except on the internet where people care enough to voice their own opinions and correct everyone else' opinions.


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