Originally Posted by WhateverDude (Post 1583509)

I totes forgot to respond to the question-

I haven't read most of the thread but I think the issue is people have a hard time empathizing with things they don't understand. And they don't understand because they're complacent and comfortable and being confronted by major issues upsets that and makes them feel accused. And instead of recognizing the effect of their apathy they get defensive because it's easier not to care.

Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1583525)

If it makes people feel better, I'll stay out of this thread. Didnt realize we had so many sensitive members when it comes to a topic that doesn't effect any of them.

Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1583505)

But that's the thing.... times are not different because we can clearly see that the same issues that took place in the 60's still are going on today.

Racism and social issues that revolve around how institutions, corporations, law enforcement, politics etc confront this issue is still the same.

The problem with today's so called leaders it that, we don't have any real leaders that really want to change the community for the better. Most of these so called leaders just care about money and status.

There is no reason why there cant be leaders willing to risk their life and fight for the civil rights of black people like leaders did during the 60's.



But you implied that it is not as institutionalized and the opposite of institutionalized racism is overt racism and if that is not what you meant than you could have clarified that point better.




You are wrong.


It is more institutionalized now compared to the past. In the past, most of the racism was expressed explicitly through hangings, shootings, harassment and other forms of physical aggression.


Institutionalized racism does not only specifically consists of laws. It consists of the way jobs are created, classism, socioeconomic status, implicit forms of racism, i.e. standardized testing (biased testing implemented to weed out minorities who lack education on certain areas), job discrimination (i.e. picking a white person over a black person who is equally qualified) those types of issues reflect in institutionalized racism which is why those things are implemented. They keep minorities in the low socioeconomic class although it is not overtly expressed like it once was.

It is more institutionalized now because there is no longer segregation so they weed out minorities in a different way.






You gave more importance over "being an example" as the the resolution and if that is not what you meant you definitely implied it. But yes in conjuction to being a good role model, there needs to be someone actively make changes in the community.

Also, while I agree there are more minorities in policy compared to the 60's, there are still not an abundance of minorities in political positions. That is still an area that minority presence is still lacking.




If you read my first few posts I said that black youth rioted during the 60's as well. That point has already been made.

However, in today's generation, there are no black leaders to step in to re-direct the youth and guide them when these racial issues arise.

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1583531)

You know what? Forget it. It's obvious you're not even bothering to read anything I write so there's no point even having a conversation.

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1583528)

To be fair, most black people I've ever known have been mostly concerned with their own bubbles live too.

Originally Posted by WhateverDude (Post 1583534)

I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to convey with this statement. Because some black people you know don't care about issues that don't effect them you shouldn't either? Is that what you're getting at?

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1583539)

No, you said that people don't care because it doesn't affect them, and I'm pointing out that people don't care about much of anything.