Whatever would Doctor King have said? Police brutality in the 21st century

~~Soulflower~~ · 04-17-2015, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I'm not debating "White Privilege". Being a white male in America is potentially the best possible life one can be born into.

I don't want kids because I don't want to spend my life taking care of something else. Is that white privilege too? You just want it to support the mentality you describe so you have someone to blame.

This makes no sense at all.

I am acknowledging a theory as to why some white people don't care about police brutality and your post IMO summed that up.

Now you wanna back track and make this into an argument just because white people are being called out.

Who are the ones engaging in police brutality and is privileged in this country?

Its not Native Americans
Its not Asians
Its definitely not African Americans
Its not Africans etc

Its almost like you want to get in an argument with me because you are in upset because white people are the ones enforcing police brutality in this country.

Don't get mad at me for stating a fact.

~~Soulflower~~ · 04-17-2015, 05:30 PM

I would love to engage in intellectual and intelligent conversation with other members who are open minded and educated on this issue. I remember WhateverDude gave some thoughtful responses in the Ferguson thread.

I am tired of immature responses on this issue with people who just want argue.

Nameless · 04-17-2015, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

But that's the thing..... white people are not victims of police brutality. They are actually 9 times out of 10 the ones enforcing the police brutality on minorities.

You just made that up.

Using white privilege in this context isn't going to be remotely helpful either, I don't think. I mean... white males bag groceries and work as cashiers too. Need to just leave race out of it and focus on the issue at hand, which is police brutality.

DwnWthVwls · 04-17-2015, 05:34 PM

Why would I get mad? I'm not disputing your fact. I think you're confused.

White privilege isn't the reason I don't care about police brutality. If it were white people getting attacked I wouldn't do anything either. I don't care about police brutality because I have other priorities that have nothing to do with anyone except myself. That's not white privilege, that's called selfishness.

Nameless · 04-17-2015, 05:37 PM

I like your honesty lol.

~~Soulflower~~ · 04-17-2015, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Why would I get mad, I'm not disputing your fact. I think you're confused.

White privilege isn't that reason I don't care about police brutality. If it was white people getting attacked I wouldn't do anything either. I don't care about police brutality because I have other priorities that have nothing to do with anyone except myself. That's not white privilege, that's called selfishness.

I am definitely not confused.

You need to do a better job in clarifying your opinions on the issue.

Just to be clear selfishness is an attribute that is apart of "white privileged" believe it or not.

Also, you implied I was blaming someone as if I was "blaming white people" for an issue white people have been enforcing for over the last hundred of years. Some of your comments came off ignorant and like you were exercising your privileged. Ex. "I don't care about this issue, there are more important things in the world, I just care about my own self" those are all traits and emotions that fall under white privileged whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

But whatever I will accept this response now. You need to be careful how you word certain things on this issue.

~~Soulflower~~ · 04-17-2015, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nameless

You just made that up.

Using white privilege in this context isn't going to be remotely helpful either, I don't think. I mean... white males bag groceries and work as cashiers too. Need to just leave race out of it and focus on the issue at hand, which is police brutality.

Do you honestly believe race has NOTHING to do with this? lol

White privilege is apart of this issue because police brutality is rooted in racism.

The reason why police brutality has been an epidemic for as long as it has IS because of white privilege (white people have gotten away with this for years).

DwnWthVwls · 04-17-2015, 05:54 PM

Ahh I gotcha. White privilege is the causation for every bad trait white people possess, but everyone else is just being human.

Nameless · 04-17-2015, 06:00 PM

I believe that making this primarily about race is exclusionary and sloppy. It's not just a black problem. What is your basis for saying that police brutality is rooted in racism? Any race of officer can do it to any race of victim. It obviously would be in some cases but it seems like a stretch to say that, especially when non-white officers do it too. I'd say one big component of it is that police know how easy it is to get away with because their fellow officers will, as is often the case, defend them right or wrong and that makes the case difficult to prove.

What about the mentally ill? It's been found that they suffer from police brutality disproportionately.

~~Soulflower~~ · 04-17-2015, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Ahh I gotcha. White privilege is the causation for every bad trait white people possess, but everyone else is just being human.

No I think you are taking offense to this issue because you are white which I think is immature and narrow minded because if you actually research what white privileged is for yourself, you will the see the same thing.

White people get upset when they get painted as the wrongdoers for problems they start which is why I said your post had a white privileged mentality.

I have discussed this issue with numerous white people and they have maturely and intelligently acknowledge their white privileged.

But for some reason everytime I get into this discussion with you, you always argue I am blaming white people Lol

Yea... sure... lol I am blaming white people for something they have been reinforcing in this country for YEARS.

I think you need to get educated on what it actually means.

04-17-2015, 05:30 PM	#22 (permalink)
~~Soulflower~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,304	I would love to engage in intellectual and intelligent conversation with other members who are open minded and educated on this issue. I remember WhateverDude gave some thoughtful responses in the Ferguson thread. I am tired of immature responses on this issue with people who just want argue.

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Nameless Fat girls in yoga pants Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 152	I like your honesty lol.

04-17-2015, 06:00 PM	#29 (permalink)
Nameless Fat girls in yoga pants Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 152	I believe that making this primarily about race is exclusionary and sloppy. It's not just a black problem. What is your basis for saying that police brutality is rooted in racism? Any race of officer can do it to any race of victim. It obviously would be in some cases but it seems like a stretch to say that, especially when non-white officers do it too. I'd say one big component of it is that police know how easy it is to get away with because their fellow officers will, as is often the case, defend them right or wrong and that makes the case difficult to prove. What about the mentally ill? It's been found that they suffer from police brutality disproportionately.