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04-19-2015, 04:29 AM | #121 (permalink) |
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seems hard to compare the two incidents just based on the facts presented
the michael brown case got a lot of coverage because it seemed questionable as to whether the shooting was legit. i do think in the end that it was, but it wasn't clear at first. is that also the case with the other shooting or was it an open and shut legit shooting? cause i think those happen all the time and don't get sensationalized. honestly though, i do see your point about the media narrative shaping people's views. would be interested in seeing some hard statistics on the matter rather than just comparing specific examples. all i know is my common sense and experience has me glad i'm white and non-thuggish each time i interact with the police. |
04-19-2015, 04:44 AM | #122 (permalink) |
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I think in some of these highly publicized cases they do end up being fairly open and shut, but people start holding candlelight vigils and complaining on the news before the case is investigated fully because of the narrative of racist cop guns down totally completely innocent and random person just because they're a different color.
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04-19-2015, 10:52 AM | #124 (permalink) |
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JWB I honestly don't get how you can say what you say about "acting in a certain way" or whatever you said. Vis a vis the most recent episode, the guy ran away from the car. Now that's suspicious certainly but is there nothing in the police's minds these days other than shoot that ****er? Do they even think about doing anything else? Call for backup? Chase him? Fire in the air? No: this guy shot the fleeing black man EIGHT TIMES! Yeah he's being charged with murder as he should be, but again I say this is only because there is irrefutable evidence that can't be swept under the carpet or hushed up. If they could you can bet they would have.
So is the prevailing attitude now, if in doubt, shoot? If black, shoot? Also, as to the examples of white guys being killed by cops, I never said it didn't happen, but it happens with far less frequency than it seems to to black men. There's definitely a pattern. I may be incredibly naive, but how can a country which elected a black man president for the first time in history allow and condone this? Is nobody putting down guidelines, warning cops, making them go to "re-education classes" or something? Just hoping it will stop? It won't. It seems to be ingrained in the MO now and it'll just keep happening.
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04-19-2015, 01:09 PM | #125 (permalink) |
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I'm curious if black people get killed by cops more frequently in areas that aren't riddled by violence, gangs, and drugs, or if the stats are skewed because of the all the ghettos inhabited by minorities.
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04-19-2015, 01:18 PM | #126 (permalink) |
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This. It's pretty much impossible to discuss this as a white person without sounding racist.
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The fact is that black people in America ARE being discriminated against, hence my "Doctor King" point, and although I'm no fan of hers I think it's unfair of you to say that Soulflower is twisting the facts or making things up when the news stories clearly back her claims up. Obviously this thread was weighted on the side of white cop/black kid violence, that was my intention. I'm not sure why so many are trying to either deny that's happening or make it into something other than what it is, clear racial profiling, possibly tacitly sanctioned? Also, if you want robots to run the world...
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