Indiana and Arkansas Religious Freedom Law
 

It has begun.....

Indiana's Memories Pizza Reportedly Becomes First Business To Vow To Reject Gay Couples

****ing *******s.

I think it's hilarious they think any gay couple would hire a f*cking pizziera to cater their wedding. Idiots.

Mike Pence has made a lot of enemies in Indiana because of this law, and rightfully so. Please believe the majority of us here find it deplorable as well. The whole #boycottIndiana thing makes me sad because I do like where I live, most of the time, and don't want people, likely artists too, turning away from the state because of RFRA, but I don't say I blame them.

The immediate backlash is proof positive that the majority thinks these laws are complete and utter BS. Nothing more than politicians catering to the evangelical vote. I can see Arkansas but was surprised that the bible thumpers carried that much influence in Indiana.

Our state's legislature is a republican majority. Governer Pence is a spineless prick. The two combined is terrifying.

I mean just look at this ****:
http://www.advocate.com/sites/advoca...K6UgAAFfXc.jpg

Good lord.....

So how do they figure out whether you're gay or not? Not all of the gay guys prance around like Freddie Mercury. Do they have you take a survey or something? Tbh I wouldn't really want to serve to Christians at my store so my I should move to Indiana.

That's why the common example being given by challengers of the bill is that of a gay couple planning their wedding or something to that effect.

I'm not sure if freedom for religion includes freedom from religion either. IMO atheists have just as hard of a time in work enviroments and don't always feel comfortable in making that known to their employer. I don't believe in god but I'm sure as fakehell not going to disclose that information to the people I work for.

I'm pretty sure that freedom of religion counts for both freedom of deciding your religion and freedom from others' religion.

If the law were introduced to persecute Christians (legitimately for once, not just when they like to whine about it), there would be riots in ****ing Indiana.

Well, if this is a law that literally allows good ol' discrimination, I'm against it. It's 2015 after all.

****. I kind of regret that post actually.

I'm actually going to go totally the other way with this now. I'm tired of religious freedom being invoked improperly. If you're going to be open to the public, you are not allowed to discriminate.

done.

Freedom of religion allows for you to practice your own religion without others having the power to enforce the doctrines of their own religion upon you. It's a secular society and ffs you run a business so be a secular cunt yourself. I don't spam my music (basically my religion) at work and you should do the same. Religious freedoms are fun until they impose on the freedoms allowed in other religions (or lack thereof).

it looks like this thread almost got interesting but then quickly corrected itself and became boring again

Why? I agreed with you.
Refusing service to gay couples is an incredibly ****ty thing to do, but it shouldn't be illegal.

Why don't gay couples deserve the same rights and civil liberties as anyone else?

I'm cool with gay guys as long as they don't do any sodomy. God doesn't like sodomy at all, not after what Lucifer did to him.

Except lesbians. Lesbians are cool. But only the hot ones.

You've got the idea. That's what God is all about.

i hope god is real and he tortures you with sodomy in hell for this joke :laughing:

I always thought private businesses are free to choose whom they service.
Not just talking about gay couples here.
Once again, I don't personally condone this behaviour, homophobia is ignorant and plain wrong, I just don't think it should be illegal.

so basically you disagree with the fact that the civil rights movement forced businesses to serve black people and white people the same?

Ya, so you're cool with this coming back?

http://abhmuseum.org/wp-content/uplo...hitePeople.jpg

On the note of this, when did marriage become a right? It's a Christian service, so why are gays even in the discussion.

the problem with americans is they've been led to believe freedom is the cure-all for everything. freedom isn't just something that just exists in and of itself. freedom is administered in responsible doses at varying intervals by the state.

cry about it all you like, at the end of the day the truth is people need to be told what to do by other people who are holding weapons for things to function even half-way orderly.

marriage pre-dates christianity

Show me where neanderthals had wedding ceremonies and we'll talk.

****ing ≠ marriage.

:laughing: the **** did you get neanderthals from?

how old are you, out of curiosity?

I always thought it was more about giving black people access to public institutions like schools and universities.
In that case laws against discrimination are absolutely the right thing.

No Chula, I'm not "cool" with it, I find it terrible and disgusting.
Just not sure laws against bigotry actually fight it, if some racist or homophobic ******* doesn't want to serve you, he'll find a way not to or to do it as ****ty as possible.

I think that with this controversy it's really testing which freedoms are more important than the others. Is it better to have the freedom to be able to buy a cake or to have the freedom to not make a profit by refusing to sell a cake because you're jealous of their sex life?

i dunno man i think the general consensus is that the civil rights movement worked :laughing:

i mean i haven't been to any stores that only serve white people since i've been here, and i've been living in the south for a good 2-3 years now

Do you think I'm a religious wacko trying to keep the gays out of the church or something? I'm being serious. The moment we got your credit rating and health insurance to be a factor in marriages is the moment we doomed us all to having this discussion till we all go insane.

If you're talking about me - I'm not american.
And I agree with you, this whole libertarian mindset (or whatever one might call it) is incredibly naive. The government has to control things.

Glad to hear that.:D
It's hard not to imagine the south as one big fat racist redneck stereotype, when you know it purely from popular culture.

no, why do you keep responding in such random ways? i didn't say anything about you keeping gays out of church, stop bringing up random ****.

i said marriage pre-dates chrsitianity, then you brought up neanderthals which are a different species from us. so you seem a bit confused to me. i was saying the oldest recorded civilizations weren't christian and they had marriage in these civilizations. they also had marriage in all the eastern non-christian civilizations throughout the ages.

it's a social institution, not a 'christian service.' if you're christian then you can put some sort of christian significance in it, but that's not the only kind of marriage that has traditionally existed and it wasn't even the oldest recorded version of this type of institution. the institution is honestly a result of our biology and the fact that we're a pair-bonding species. so it goes way back

Jesus civilized the neanderthals.. Before that there was no marriage, and men did whatever they wanted.

HAHAHAHA That didn't take long. Love it.

Memories Pizza | Walkerton, IN | We cater gay weddings!

Nice.:clap:

Would be cool if South Park made an episode about this whole controversy.

Click on the photos and check out the comments. This place is really going to regret their stupid decision.

https://www.facebook.com/MemoriesPizza/photos_stream

How about if you're just shown all of the Jews in the Old Testament who were married? Will that demonstrate that marriage predates Christianity for you?

**** zeus was putting his wife hera in her place in the iliad like at least 500 years bc