John Wilkes Booth

so basically you disagree with the fact that the civil rights movement forced businesses to serve black people and white people the same?

Chula Vista

Ya, so you're cool with this coming back?

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Wpnfire

On the note of this, when did marriage become a right? It's a Christian service, so why are gays even in the discussion.

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John Wilkes Booth

the problem with americans is they've been led to believe freedom is the cure-all for everything. freedom isn't just something that just exists in and of itself. freedom is administered in responsible doses at varying intervals by the state.

cry about it all you like, at the end of the day the truth is people need to be told what to do by other people who are holding weapons for things to function even half-way orderly.

John Wilkes Booth

marriage pre-dates christianity

Wpnfire

Show me where neanderthals had wedding ceremonies and we'll talk.

****ing ≠ marriage.

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the **** did you get neanderthals from?

how old are you, out of curiosity?

grindy

I always thought it was more about giving black people access to public institutions like schools and universities.
In that case laws against discrimination are absolutely the right thing.

No Chula, I'm not "cool" with it, I find it terrible and disgusting.
Just not sure laws against bigotry actually fight it, if some racist or homophobic ******* doesn't want to serve you, he'll find a way not to or to do it as ****ty as possible.

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Frownland

I think that with this controversy it's really testing which freedoms are more important than the others. Is it better to have the freedom to be able to buy a cake or to have the freedom to not make a profit by refusing to sell a cake because you're jealous of their sex life?

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John Wilkes Booth

i dunno man i think the general consensus is that the civil rights movement worked

i mean i haven't been to any stores that only serve white people since i've been here, and i've been living in the south for a good 2-3 years now