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View Poll Results: Is it ok for a woman to propose to a man?
Yes, of course! It's not fair that men get to make ALL the major decisions. 16 76.19%
No, absolutely not .. it's just...backward! 1 4.76%
Yes, but (state your contradictory objection) 1 4.76%
Other (please elaborate) 3 14.29%
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is this thread even real.

Obviously it's fine.

Why wouldn't it be fine?

To think otherwise is moronic.
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think women proposing to men will end marriage...


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... Because when the pressures that society puts upon either sex to act in certain ways (i.e. women should seek marriage to validate their existence, men should seek female romantic partnership in general to prove their masculinity, and with the expectation being on men to prove their commitment via proposing marriage due to the assumption that their motivation is lesser) are equalized as stereotypes are hopefully discarded, then the two parties will likely be more concerned with their actual relationship than what "step" in the relationship "ladder" they are on.

As a result, marriage will hopefully become more of a formality; the logic being that it is only justified to enter into such a binding contract when both parties have experienced enough of life and its ups and downs to gauge the others responses to any crisis, grown as people through a number of individual character-altering periods without growing apart, and in general have developed such a profound and inseparable relationship that marriage is almost redundant.

Whether or not the act of getting married has actual weight, I imagine marriage will eventually lose its magical nature and people will just get bored with the idea, except for its legal benefits.
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Old 02-02-2015, 03:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Strictly hetero speaking there's nothing inherently desperate about it at all.
if we ignore any societal norms when considering it, then it's no different from a man asking a woman.

but of course those norms are not set aside when most people are actually judging your behavior.

since the traditional rules of engagement are that the man is supposed to be the aggressor and the woman is supposed to be the object of desire, a woman who bypasses this process of waiting for a man to select her can be seen as disregarding the rules because perhaps she fears that the man won't actually fulfill his role in pursuing her. hence the stigma of desperation.

i'm not saying this is how it should be or how i see it, but this is the impression i get from people in general. see pet sounds' post above for a mild example.
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Old 02-02-2015, 03:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't understand what you're getting at here. Of course there's a stigma. The point of this thread is should there be one and the answer is no.
the op asked specifically if we've moved past this sort of thing. i'm saying not by a long shot. at least not based on my irl experience.
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