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Pet_Sounds 02-03-2015 10:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1546916)
But as long as we keep thinking that way, said unnecessary awkwardness will prevail.
Only when we, the enlightened, modern, intelligent and incredibly good-looking people, stop caring about those roles, might they be abandoned at some point.
Not to say, that what you said isn't true when it concerns people who actually take those roles seriously and live according to them. But one shouldn't generalize.
You make an excellent point.

Xurtio 02-03-2015 06:25 PM
It's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Boys propose because it's expected in our culture. So when a girl proposes, the assumption that boys should propose plays into people guessing at what the motivation was for the girl proposing was (as evidenced in this thread). Dude didn't have the balls? She's crazy? Desperate?

Not that I think it's fair, but it seems to be how it is.

Carpe Mortem 02-03-2015 06:26 PM
No, it is absolutely not okay. The very thought of it sickens me, right up there with people who don't punch their ponies in the face.

Xurtio 02-03-2015 06:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1547058)
No, it is absolutely not okay. The very thought of it sickens me, right up there with people who don't punch their ponies in the face.
Vermin Supreme would NOT approve.

Carpe Mortem 02-03-2015 06:28 PM
Actually though I generally get the impression that women find it more meaningful to be proposed to, whereas dudes might feel emasculated and wouldn't think its romantic no matter how its done. Society isn't there yet. Abolish marriage.

Carpe Mortem 02-03-2015 06:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1547059)
Vermin Supreme would NOT approve.
Its cool didn't vote for him anyways. I voted for his hat.

Xurtio 02-03-2015 06:40 PM
The presidential candidate of the anarchist party wouldn't have it any other way.

simplephysics 02-03-2015 09:05 PM
Is it okay for a man to propose to a man? Is it okay to say no? Is it okay to say yes knowing that it won't work out? Is it okay to propose only because there's a fetus involved? IS IT OKAY?

Paul Smeenus 02-03-2015 09:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dreadnaught (Post 1547076)
Is it okay for a man to propose to a man? Is it okay to say no? Is it okay to say yes knowing that it won't work out? Is it okay to propose only because there's a fetus involved? IS IT OKAY?

How is there going to be a fetus involved?

simplephysics 02-03-2015 09:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1547078)
How is there going to be a fetus involved?
Those propositions are disrelated, but hey it's 2015, anything is possible right?

Paul Smeenus 02-03-2015 09:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dreadnaught (Post 1547079)
but hey it's 2015, anything is possible right?

I don't think the current year makes much of a difference

EPOCH6 02-03-2015 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1547078)
How is there going to be a fetus involved?
Sometimes when a couple is dealing with a pregnancy they'll rush a marriage for the financial benefits.

Paul Smeenus 02-03-2015 09:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EPOCH6 (Post 1547086)
Sometimes when a couple is dealing with a pregnancy they'll rush a marriage for the financial benefits.
That doesn't make a fetus between two men possible.

That's what you said, dude. I'm as liberal as anyone but two dudes can't make a fetus happen.

Paul Smeenus 02-03-2015 09:46 PM
Never mind, this is just word salad. Even with my damaged brain that doesn't work.

Paul Smeenus 02-03-2015 09:48 PM
I just realized there are two of you. Well, doesn't really change anything.

simplephysics 02-03-2015 09:49 PM
Two men in a committed relationship can plan to adopt a fetus, though. My brother and his partner were able to do so without being legally married. They can't make one, but they can have one.

EDIT: Just read your last post Paul. I was just messing around anyways. :P

EPOCH6 02-03-2015 09:50 PM
I didn't say anything, you were replying to Dreadnaught, I was just trying to clarify what Dreadnaught meant, and I'm pretty sure Dreadnaught was just listing a number of possible situations where people get all uncomfortable about whether or not it's okay to propose or not to propose. Like between gay couples, during pregnancies, when you know a relationship is falling apart etc etc.

Paul Smeenus 02-03-2015 09:51 PM
I've lost interest

simplephysics 02-03-2015 09:51 PM
Shall we pass around the peace pipe now?

EPOCH6 02-03-2015 09:52 PM
Same.

Justthefacts 02-12-2015 01:25 PM
My mom proposed to my dad without a ring, and he said no and proposed to her the next week with a ring. She cried for days and thought they were done :rofl:

So yes it's fine. But the bitch better have a ring

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-12-2015 01:51 PM
Women propose to men 100% of the time.

It's just instead of asking them outright they just drop hints and guilt trip about it till they get their way. You really think any guy proposed to a woman because he actually wanted to :laughing:

DwnWthVwls 02-12-2015 03:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1550717)
Women propose to men 100% of the time.

It's just instead of asking them outright they just drop hints and guilt trip about it till they get their way. You really think any guy proposed to a woman because he actually wanted to :laughing:
:thumb:

Carpe Mortem 02-13-2015 06:17 AM
Uh no it is absolutely not okay for them to do that, or to wear pants, or to wear 'the' pants. Ever. Burn their ovaries after them children.

DwnWthVwls 02-13-2015 12:29 PM
I'm confused.

Burn their ovaries after they have children or burn their ovaries after you burn their children?

FRED HALE SR. 02-13-2015 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1551370)
I'm confused.

Burn their ovaries after they have children or burn their ovaries after you burn their children?
Why can't we have both.

DwnWthVwls 02-13-2015 05:18 PM
I suppose we can it's just redundant since the latter includes both.

Carpe Mortem 02-13-2015 05:44 PM
Depends how clean she keeps the house. If its pretty nice you should probably burn the children before they ruin it.

Scarlett O'Hara 02-15-2015 02:48 PM
Honestly I don't think I could propose, but power to the ladies that do.

P A N 02-15-2015 03:10 PM
i'm a 30 year old male, and i think if the lady i loved proposed to me, well that'd be pretty kick-*ss, in that super-meaningful kinda way. i'm also a huge fan of smashing gender rules in general though. things that happen exactly as prescribed are boring as all hell.

Trollheart 02-15-2015 03:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1551049)
Uh no it is absolutely not okay for them to do that, or to wear pants, or to wear 'the' pants. Ever. Burn their ovaries after them children.
Who let you out of the kitchen???

Carpe Mortem 02-16-2015 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1552322)
Who let you out of the kitchen???
Who showed you how a computer works?

Trollheart 02-16-2015 04:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1552845)
Who showed you how a computer works?
Haven't you ever heard of the "Which?" guides? Now, what happens if I press this button ... hmm ... format ... format .... are you sure? All data will be lost y/n? Hmm. Ah, what's the worst that can happen?

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-16-2015 05:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1552882)
Hmm. Ah, what's the worst that can happen?
You learn how to send a prog album review?

Trollheart 02-16-2015 05:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1552887)
You learn how to send a prog album review?
I don't need to learn that. I came out of the womb already halfway through a discourse on why "Selling England by the pound" is not the best Genesis album ever...

Incidentally, six words for ya my man:
The
Lamb
Lies
Down
On
Broadway
;)

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-16-2015 05:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1552892)
I don't need to learn that. I came out of the womb already halfway through a discourse on why "Selling England by the pound" is not the best Genesis album ever...

Incidentally, six words for ya my man:
The
Lamb
Lies
Down
On
Broadway
;)
I've done the first 15 minutes

Trollheart 02-16-2015 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1552893)
I've done the first 15 minutes
So you're nearly through Banks' keyboard overture then? :laughing:

Black Francis 02-22-2015 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1546652)
**this question is based on a heterosexual partnership.

We all know the age-old story. The guy gets down on one knee with a shiny little rock in hand, girl squeals madly, the two live happily ever after.

But is it acceptable for a woman to ask her boyfriend to marry her?

Do men think it's weird, forward, or too desperate?

Or have we moved forward as a society in our efforts for equality?
Yea ofc it is and no, it's not desperate at all.

Usually before a couple is ready for marriage they start talking about it in the relationship and when both of them are for it i think either one could ask the question.

grtwhtgrvty 02-23-2015 01:18 AM
Is this thread even real.

Obviously it's fine.

Why wouldn't it be fine?

To think otherwise is moronic.

The Batlord 02-23-2015 01:36 AM
I think women proposing to men will end marriage...


Spoiler for oiuhv:
... Because when the pressures that society puts upon either sex to act in certain ways (i.e. women should seek marriage to validate their existence, men should seek female romantic partnership in general to prove their masculinity, and with the expectation being on men to prove their commitment via proposing marriage due to the assumption that their motivation is lesser) are equalized as stereotypes are hopefully discarded, then the two parties will likely be more concerned with their actual relationship than what "step" in the relationship "ladder" they are on.

As a result, marriage will hopefully become more of a formality; the logic being that it is only justified to enter into such a binding contract when both parties have experienced enough of life and its ups and downs to gauge the others responses to any crisis, grown as people through a number of individual character-altering periods without growing apart, and in general have developed such a profound and inseparable relationship that marriage is almost redundant.

Whether or not the act of getting married has actual weight, I imagine marriage will eventually lose its magical nature and people will just get bored with the idea, except for its legal benefits.


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