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Old 09-01-2015, 05:00 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Do you find music helps? I normally do it in silence as if I play music I think about the music.
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Old 09-01-2015, 09:27 PM   #62 (permalink)
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When I used to meditate consciously and regularly, I used this song a lot:

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Old 10-28-2019, 12:17 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Recently I’ve been having trouble meditating

I feel this knot in my gut kind of right under my heart. It feels like it will go away if I just stop holding it there but I can’t seem to relax it. It’s actually scary to let it go like I have to physically restrain the knot or I’ll have a heart attack or something.

Teachers of mindfulness meditation say you can’t get rid of it they way I’m trying to do but instead you should just observe the knot or even make it the focus of your meditation. It’s pretty disturbing and I haven’t been meditating because I don’t want to face it.
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Old 10-28-2019, 06:49 AM   #64 (permalink)
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I think a doctor might have something say to meditation quacks.
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Old 10-28-2019, 07:31 AM   #65 (permalink)
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I think a doctor might have something say to meditation quacks.
My doctor recommended cognitive behavior therapy which often includes mindfulness meditation. Meditation teachers who claim meditation is a cure for anything are frauds. A good teacher will emphasize that what you’re doing is observing your consciousness with an awareness that everything you’re experiencing is experienced through consciousness.

I like meditating on the following mantra: may my mind be at ease / may I be at ease with my mind

Even if it’s placebo - I like it. When I meditate on my thoughts and let my mind run free it feels like I’m deleting bad or old files in my mind. Or like I’m cycling out the trash.

If I were doing it in lieu of something else then quackery would be more of a concern.
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Old 10-28-2019, 07:35 AM   #66 (permalink)
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At first I thought it was "may I be at ease with my wind".
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Old 10-28-2019, 08:13 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Here's the problem OH, you don't understand Batlord.
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Old 04-19-2020, 06:28 PM   #69 (permalink)
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does anyone here meditate?

i tried it a couple times a while back and honestly found it pretty useless. they said to still your thoughts and try focusing on one thing, like your breath. i can't really do that. my mind just keeps going no matter what. even when i try not to think, i will notice thoughts pop up in the back of my mind. and then i'm like **** i'm thinking about something. and then i'm like **** now i'm thinking about me thinking about something. and then i try to refocus my thoughts on my breath but honestly i find my breath pretty boring. and then i'm like **** now i'm thinking about trying not to think about stuff. i usually lasted maybe 5 mins tops before i got bored and decided to go do something else.

i always assumed this was just my failure at meditating, but then i was listening to sam harris's recent book on meditation when i was at work today. he was saying how a lot of people who think they are meditating are really just thinking with their eyes closed, and that it takes some practice at mediation before you truly realize how distracted by thought you really are. i thought this was interesting since it didn't take me any practice at all to notice how distracted i was. i'm pretty sure this means i'm a guru but who knows.

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I agree that laying down with your eyes closed is way different than the traditional mediating.

I been "mediating" by simply just laying down with my eyes closed while I listen to an album. Sometimes I listen to loud rock like Linkin Park while sometimes the mood is more chill and I'll listen to a calm album from Of monsters and men.

I also started listening to the 432 hz to calm down.
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The method I learned a decade and a half ago was just to accept that thoughts will of course occur and to label them as "just a thought" and not to assign any value to them (e.g. *thought occurs* do not think of it as a good or bad thought that you do or don't want to think but simply as a thought) and simply keep doing this for as long as you meditate. It isn't about necessarily clearing your mind but about allowing your thoughts to progress as they normally would and seeing where that leads without the interference of bull**** that encourages you to "virtue signal" to yourself and lead your thoughts down pathways that agree with how you already think you should think.
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