The Batlord

If sacrificing a virgin or two could get me immortality, then sign me the **** up. So long as there isn't some kind of Judgement Day where my immortality gets ****ed over then I see no downside.

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Oriphiel

The earth will inevitably be destroyed one day, and from then on you'll float through space all alone... mortality can be a blessing in disguise.

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Chula Vista

But there are spiritual Gods for many many people. The vast majority on them as a matter of fact. And the rewards they get from their worship are real to them. Who are you or I to claim otherwise?

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Guybrush

In The Shadow over Innsmouth, Dagon worshipers turn into fish-people, eventually migrating out to sea. I wouldn't mind that so much .. Could be a nice change of scenery on your old days. Plus you could breathe under water. How cool is that?

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They are real to them, but generally well within the constraints of what a mind can do to itself. That was my point, really. Everything about religion is within the constraints of what people can do to themselves or others. Wouldn't a real god be capable of more?

I sometimes find myself being judged or affected by religious people and it's nearly always in ways that I don't like. Still, I generally accept people's freedom to voice religious opinions about me or other things (claims and all) and of course I think people should accept my freedom to voice opinions too.

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Oriphiel

The novelty wears off in about five minutes, before you go back and pick a Dunmer like you should have in the first place!

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The Batlord

And by that time we'll have migrated into space, leaving the destruction of Earth irrelevant.

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Oriphiel

Maybe, maybe not. How do you know? It could be destroyed at any moment. Also, it doesn't really matter, since you have an eternal life and you'd eventually get stuck somewhere. Maybe it's in the rubble left by an earthquake, and the city cleans up what they can and builds over it, and you're left unable to move deep in the ground. Or maybe you're on a spaceship, and it malfunctions; space is so large that you could go an eternity without ever being discovered, especially if the ship is going in a direction that leads it towards uncharted areas.

Also, isn't it inevitable that you'd eventually catch an insane amount of diseases, and become afflicted with innumerable illnesses? For instance, every time a cell replicates, there's a chance that the process could become flawed, causing cancer. And knowing you and your lack of caution, you'd probably catch every space venereal disease there is as well.

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Guybrush

By the way, regarding the mental health of believers vs. non-believers ..

Atheism isn't bad for your well being - Business Insider

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Xurtio

Not to mention that overpopulation would probably destroy any comfort to living. About 107 billion people have ever lived. Current population is 7 billion. If we were immortal, there'd probably be even more then 107 billion people, because those 107 billion people would all have a lot more chances to mate.

Also, power structures would suck for those of us born in the last couple centuries. The people who take power and enslave others early in the history of man will never die and will have a chance to become more and more powerful with time. Those of us alive today would have probably been born as slaves under such a world.

I want to write a novel now.

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CoNtrivedNiHilism

I've seen this subject get so personal and ugly on so many different forums, that I cannot begin to count them all.

It's tough to discuss it because it's so easy for someone to get defensive, or take offense to something that someone says against it, or even a support of it.

My stance on this has been going through changes. And it has been the most progressive the past two years on where I stand on it. If I'm being honest with myself, even born in to a Christian family, and being raised as such. I cannot say that either side of this debate can prove irrefutably, that God does or does not exist. That includes science and its claims on the age old debate, theory of evolution and whatnot. But I'm not saying any of that is wrong, neither right. I stand somewhere between it all. I'm not an Atheist, not sure I consider myself a Christian these days, and being agnostic might fit me more than anything else. So I am open to things, I guess.

I think religion or believing in a God can be great for people. But I've seen just as much harm come of it, it's not just all pretty and nice all of the time. So it's easy to understand why someone wouldn't believe God exists, or that there is a God of any kind at all. People do want something to believe in. Religion being around so long is proof of that. But a lot of people also like to think that they decide their own life, nothing is predestined.

If you want to believe God is real. Do so. No ridicule should come of it. The same should be done with someone that is against religion. But in this world, opposing views lead to conflict more often than not. So it'll never be an issue of common ground.

Such is what it is.

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