Reasons you believe God/don't believe God?

Chula Vista · 02-22-2015, 10:34 AM

Was pretty messed up seeing so many hungry people walking around with dirt on their foreheads last Wednesday.

DwnWthVwls · 02-22-2015, 10:39 AM

I wish it was dirt. It was ashes.. Sick bastards.

grtwhtgrvty · 02-23-2015, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I wish it was dirt. It was ashes.. Sick bastards.

You're wrong. It was ****.

TheMainMan · 02-25-2015, 02:45 PM

*answering the first post*

Personally i identify myself as a deist but i act as if i am atheist. I believe in a higher power but do not wish to serve such a being that allows horrible things to happen on earth. Not to mention all of the contradictions in the bible. I dont believe in a satan though. It just seems like humans back then had to make something like god so holy and good to have an exact opposite of God

Guybrush · 02-25-2015, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMainMan

*answering the first post*

Personally i identify myself as a deist but i act as if i am atheist. I believe in a higher power but do not wish to serve such a being that allows horrible things to happen on earth. Not to mention all of the contradictions in the bible. I dont believe in a satan though. It just seems like humans back then had to make something like god so holy and good to have an exact opposite of God

What (if anything) makes the existence of a god seem convincing to you?

TheMainMan · 02-26-2015, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

What (if anything) makes the existence of a god seem convincing to you?

what makes it convincing to me is that every other explanation for not having a god didn't make sense to me. from the big bang to evolution i did not understand any theory that discredited the existence of god. This could possibly be due to the fact of me growing up in a religious family IN THE SOUTH straight in the bible belt

Guybrush · 02-26-2015, 01:34 AM

I think the most convincing for me is that I just can't see God's influence as a deity in anything. All I can see God as is as an idea that makes people do things. It makes it seem like if there is a God, he's not really influencing the world in any direct way at the moment. Only his religions are.

Ashwell John · 02-26-2015, 01:50 AM

I believe in God and he's guiding us. He has made us best of all creation. So, I think he's everywhere.

TheMainMan · 02-26-2015, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

I think the most convincing for me is that I just can't see God's influence as a deity in anything. All I can see God as is as an idea that makes people do things. It makes it seem like if there is a God, he's not really influencing the world in any direct way at the moment. Only his religions are.

^this is very similar to the beliefs of Many deists. Personally i believe that he exists but does not interact and has not interacted upon the earth since creating it. Meaning that man himself created religions to try to explain the world to the common man. If god is a perfect being then why have so many contradictions in the bible. Also If a god does exist he legit sees the horrors of his creation and does not try to fix them. Why? Why have people suffer for what YOU YOURSELF have done?

Guybrush · 02-26-2015, 02:24 AM

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^this is very similar to the beliefs of Many deists. Personally i believe that he exists but does not interact and has not interacted upon the earth since creating it. Meaning that man himself created religions to try to explain the world to the common man. If god is a perfect being then why have so many contradictions in the bible. Also If a god does exist he legit sees the horrors of his creation and does not try to fix them. Why? Why have people suffer for what YOU YOURSELF have done?

Then I'd say we can generally predict what happens in the universe because events seem to run in accordance with certain natural laws that behave entirely predictable. That's not to say the universe has to be entirely deterministic, but that there doesn't seem to be any conscious will imposed on it. Gravity, f.ex, behaves predictably so there doesn't seem to be any consciousness behind it.

Stretching back in time to the beginning of the universe (if there is such a thing), it seems more rational to me that the same sort of predictable laws that determine the evolution of the universe today also caused the things that happened then. It can't be proven, but let's just say I don't see the need to invent a deity to explain something like the birth of the universe when that explanation doesn't seem to be valid or needed in order to explain any other aspect of the universe.

02-22-2015, 10:34 AM	#191 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Was pretty messed up seeing so many hungry people walking around with dirt on their foreheads last Wednesday. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

02-26-2015, 01:34 AM	#197 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	I think the most convincing for me is that I just can't see God's influence as a deity in anything. All I can see God as is as an idea that makes people do things. It makes it seem like if there is a God, he's not really influencing the world in any direct way at the moment. Only his religions are. __________________ Something Completely Different

02-25-2015, 02:45 PM	#194 (permalink)
TheMainMan Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 66	answering the first post Personally i identify myself as a deist but i act as if i am atheist. I believe in a higher power but do not wish to serve such a being that allows horrible things to happen on earth. Not to mention all of the contradictions in the bible. I dont believe in a satan though. It just seems like humans back then had to make something like god so holy and good to have an exact opposite of God

02-26-2015, 01:50 AM	#198 (permalink)
Ashwell John Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 100	I believe in God and he's guiding us. He has made us best of all creation. So, I think he's everywhere.