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01-22-2015, 11:43 PM | #1 (permalink) | |
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Trigger Warnings
So as some of you may know I'm taking an argument/persuasion class this semester in which we will be discussing many different topics that will be suitable for this part of the forum section. Here is an article from my first assignment:
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Class discussion included: -Should students be excused if they are uncomfortable with the material? -Are these warnings necessary? -What effect do they have on academia? A List of Trigger Warnings. Some are reasonable, and some are absolutely f*cking absurd. Bugs? Skulls? http://trigger-warnings.tumblr.com/tags If anyone would actually like to read the other articles I can post em. I just didn't wanna make a Lord post :P
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01-23-2015, 04:10 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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don't have time to read the whole article atm as i have work soon, but how are trigger warnings any different from explicit content stickers, movie ratings and graphic content disclaimers at the beginning of tv shows? i.e. nothing new here imo...
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01-23-2015, 10:59 AM | #3 (permalink) |
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TBH it's not and most of us in class said we don't have a problem with the idea of including them. The problem is how they are starting to hinder academia, and how you balance them. Oberlin was the first college to start doing it and according to them teachers were asked to take any possible triggers out of their lectures unless they were absolutely necessary to the lecture. Look at the list of trigger warnings and think about how useless a lot of subjects would be without them.
So you're teaching a class on english lit which includes Huck Finn and half the class is offended by "Nigger Jim", now they don't have to do the work, and yet they are getting credit for the course? The point of college is to challenge and educate you. If you can't handle the subject matter you're learning for your major maybe you shouldn't be in that field of study.
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I don't think trigger warnings themselves are anything to get steamed up over. As JWB said, it's not a whole lot different than an EXPLICIT CONTENT sticker. But I certainly don't believe explicit content should actually be filtered out of the curriculum, it's much more practical to simply advise caution. Or better yet, could we not just focus on providing a clearer understanding of curriculum prior to student enrollment? Why does it even get to the point where halfway through a course you have to remind students, "Oh yeah, in case you weren't expecting to see anything about this in English Literature, today we're going to be analyzing something with serious mature content!". I suppose students ought to have the option to opt out of something that may be traumatic, who are we to force them into it? But ****, you don't learn to cope with the past by shielding yourself from reality, sometimes you gotta roll with the punches to get through things.
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01-23-2015, 11:34 AM | #5 (permalink) |
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Another argument was made in the case of rape victims who have unique experience with the situation and actually help us understand and see things from a perspective we would have never had the opportunity to otherwise.
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01-23-2015, 11:35 AM | #6 (permalink) | |
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I think, besides triggers which actually TRIGGER (i.e. rape, PSD from war... I'm sure there's some "etc" I can't think of) they seem largely useless. All well and good to let some girl who might have been raped know that such and such reading assignment contains a graphic rape scene, but otherwise what's the point? What purpose is actually being served?
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01-23-2015, 11:39 AM | #7 (permalink) | |
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@DwnWthVwls:
Which would be great, but ultimately it is up to the victim to decide whether or not they want to do that. However I don't see an issue with a professor saying to a class, "Wenesday's lecture will be on this and that and if there are any of you who would be able to provide a unique and informed perspective, I would greatly appreciate your input, thank you". I think maybe the trickiest part of this debate is deciding whether or not students should be docked credits for opting out of certain sessions, maybe they could be offered an alternative assignment to fill those credits, but where is the line drawn on how often somebody can opt out, such a system could obviously be abused.
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01-23-2015, 12:07 PM | #9 (permalink) | |
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Edit: Also, my understanding of trigger warnings are that they're in place so whomever may be triggered may be able to mentally prepare themselves for the content, not excuse them from an assignment. If they chose to skip a scene or something, that's one thing, but it kind of discredits the emotional state of someone with PTSD if their trauma is deemed just as valid as someone with a fear of bugs. Last edited by WWWP; 01-23-2015 at 12:13 PM. |
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