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uncle salty 11-29-2017 06:25 AM

Ah, guys like Batlord don't bother me. It's hard for me to take someone like that seriously.

I mean, he wrote 'I'm not a racist, I have a black friend', and he has an Adolf Hitler avatar.

That's how woke he is.

MicShazam 11-29-2017 09:46 AM

I don't think any 100% heterosexual male would want to want to have sex with a former woman who still has a penis. I'd imagine you'd have to be either gay or at least bi-sexual. Same goes for a relationship where the transgender partner is post-op, probably.

I'ts honestly a very strange and very volatile thing to talk about. It's complex, people have strong feelings about it and it's one of the quickest ways to unexpectedly piss someone off on the internet. I feel like I should just shut up.

I'm going out on thin ice anyways as saying that in my view, though it does not make them lesser as people, I don't ever think that a transgender person can transition 100%. You will forever be transgender, rather than completely be what you wish you could be. This is sad to think, since these people really feel like they need it, but I don't think it could be any other way, short of reincarnation. So an - even very convincing transgender male-to-female person - is still male in some kind of sense - as well as female in another sense.

Blank. 11-29-2017 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by uncle salty (Post 1899119)
Ah, guys like Batlord don't bother me. It's hard for me to take someone like that seriously.

I mean, he wrote 'I'm not a racist, I have a black friend', and he has an Adolf Hitler avatar.

That's how woke he is.

I think his post went over your head. Actually I know it did.

Truth is, Batlord is more woke than you. Having a gay son doesn't mean you're woke, it just means your son is going to burn in the pits of hell.

rubber soul 11-29-2017 11:18 AM


Akai 11-29-2017 11:20 AM

plz stop bumping this trash thread m8


Edit: wait, I hope we're not using the term 'woke' unironically now...

uncle salty 11-29-2017 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1899161)
I think his post went over your head. Actually I know it did.

Truth is, Batlord is more woke than you. Having a gay son doesn't mean you're woke, it just means your son is going to burn in the pits of hell.

No, I fully understand the point he was trying to make.

But, same as me, it's an opinion and he's entitled to it.

I am a bit baffled by the whole 'woke' thing. Is it a cooler way to say you're aware? Because it just sounds illiterate.

Cuthbert 11-29-2017 12:52 PM

'Woke' ffs :D

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-29-2017 12:56 PM

i don't think it's gay. i mean, i guess it's not straight either though... can it be like, neither? or both?

i know damn well that if a 8/10 or hotter came over to any of your places and proceeded to pull out a dick you would suck that thing like a goddamn gatorade bottle and you're a liar if you say you wouldn't.

Blank. 11-29-2017 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by uncle salty (Post 1899207)
No, I fully understand the point he was trying to make.

But, same as me, it's an opinion and he's entitled to it.

I am a bit baffled by the whole 'woke' thing. Is it a cooler way to say you're aware? Because it just sounds illiterate.

You said woke. So I was just using your language. I fucking hate it when people say woke.

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1899212)
i don't think it's gay. i mean, i guess it's not straight either though... can it be like, neither? or both?

i know damn well that if a 8/10 or hotter came over to any of your places and proceeded to pull out a dick you would suck that thing like a goddamn gatorade bottle and you're a liar if you say you wouldn't.

Of course I would suck that dick. I'd suck it if the person was a 2. But not a 1. But let's call a spade a spade.

Akai 11-29-2017 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by uncle salty (Post 1899207)
I am a bit baffled by the whole 'woke' thing. Is it a cooler way to say you're aware? Because it just sounds illiterate.

This intrigues me as that's the primary term I've seen you use since you joined MB...



420 posts blaze it m8

The Batlord 11-29-2017 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by uncle salty (Post 1899119)
Ah, guys like Batlord don't bother me. It's hard for me to take someone like that seriously.

I mean, he wrote 'I'm not a racist, I have a black friend', and he has an Adolf Hitler avatar.

That's how woke he is.

No. No. No. No no no. "I'm not a racist..." was in quotation marks because I was mocking you. And anyone who can't appreciate a good Hitler avatar doesn't deserve a gay son.

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Originally Posted by Ziggy ''Frappanised'' Zappada (Post 1899163)
Edit: wait, I hope we're not using the term 'woke' unironically now...

Oh dear god no.

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Originally Posted by uncle salty (Post 1899207)
No, I fully understand the point he was trying to make.

But, same as me, it's an opinion and he's entitled to it.

I am a bit baffled by the whole 'woke' thing. Is it a cooler way to say you're aware? Because it just sounds illiterate.

Really? Cause I'm pretty sure I was just having fun being a drunk dickhead.

Xurtio 11-29-2017 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1899148)
I don't think any 100% heterosexual male would want to want to have sex with a former woman who still has a penis. I'd imagine you'd have to be either gay or at least bi-sexual. Same goes for a relationship where the transgender partner is post-op, probably.

I'ts honestly a very strange and very volatile thing to talk about. It's complex, people have strong feelings about it and it's one of the quickest ways to unexpectedly piss someone off on the internet. I feel like I should just shut up.

I'm going out on thin ice anyways as saying that in my view, though it does not make them lesser as people, I don't ever think that a transgender person can transition 100%. You will forever be transgender, rather than completely be what you wish you could be. This is sad to think, since these people really feel like they need it, but I don't think it could be any other way, short of reincarnation. So an - even very convincing transgender male-to-female person - is still male in some kind of sense - as well as female in another sense.

it's more complicated than you think (sexual dimorphism, I mean). We all start as females in the womb, right? there's a set of molecules called androgens that act on specific pathways of expression and cause particular morpholigical changes which are obvious for us to observe (gonadal sex). But it's not always the case the genetic sex is the same as gonadal sex (sometimes the androgen program fails completely and a genetic male stays gonadally female).

but.. gonads are directly observable. changes in immune system, circulatory system, and brain chemistry are not, and androgen expression works to different degrees in different pathways in different people.

Where do you define 100% male? They must be a vanishingly small set (statistically) of perfect androgen expression. it's with low probability any particular male in a given room is such.

MicShazam 11-30-2017 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1899345)
it's more complicated than you think (sexual dimorphism, I mean). We all start as females in the womb, right? there's a set of molecules called androgens that act on specific pathways of expression and cause particular morpholigical changes which are obvious for us to observe (gonadal sex). But it's not always the case the genetic sex is the same as gonadal sex (sometimes the androgen program fails completely and a genetic male stays gonadally female).

but.. gonads are directly observable. changes in immune system, circulatory system, and brain chemistry are not, and androgen expression works to different degrees in different pathways in different people.

Where do you define 100% male? They must be a vanishingly small set (statistically) of perfect androgen expression. it's with low probability any particular male in a given room is such.

And to think that I found it plentifully impossible to talk about already. I'm no stranger to gender identity/sexuality debates (as a viewer/reader - not participant), so the last thing I need is more complexity. The easy way out it to stay far, far away from this hot potato.

In reality, I don't actually have to take a stance on things like the silly original question of this thread. If a gorgeous trans woman asked me on a date, I'd have to figure out what this all means, I guess.

Maajo 11-30-2017 04:00 AM

This is probably way too black and white for some folks, but if you have a dick in your mouth and you wanted it to be there, you're not exclusively into girls.

Cuthbert 11-30-2017 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1899417)
This is probably way too black and white for some folks, but if you have a dick in your mouth and you wanted it to be there, you're not exclusively into girls.

Agreed. It's a dick. If you're doing it for enjoyment then obviously it's gay, there is nothing wrong with it but it is. There is actually a post on the early pages that claims it's not gay if the dick owner 'identifies' as female :D

Akai 11-30-2017 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1899431)
Agreed. It's a dick. If you're doing it for enjoyment then obviously it's gay, there is nothing wrong with it but it is. There is actually a post on the early pages that claims it's not gay if the dick owner 'identifies' as female :D

It's not gay if you're not hard -Marilyn Manson

uncle salty 12-01-2017 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1899329)
No. No. No. No no no. "I'm not a racist..." was in quotation marks because I was mocking you. .

100% aware of this. My facetious reply must have been over a few heads.


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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1899329)
Really? Cause I'm pretty sure I was just having fun being a drunk dickhead.

:laughing:

A direct hit.

RiPS 12-01-2017 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by uncle salty (Post 1899866)
100% aware of this. My facetious reply must have been over a few heads.


:laughing:

You have no idea where you are.

But you'll learn... And leave.

uncle salty 12-01-2017 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RiPS (Post 1899876)
You have no idea where you are.

But you'll learn... And leave.

Thank you for the heads up.

I guess I should leave now, since you're so obviously a long standing member this community and have such a grasp on who I am.


(Now here's somebody who's truly...uh...woke.)


oh. and that's a pretty cool avatar, BTW.

DwnWthVwls 12-04-2017 05:24 PM

Sometimes you just need a good mansplaining, John Wilkes Bitch. :D

WWWP 12-04-2017 05:26 PM

Not gay because a female with a penis is just a female with a female penis

DwnWthVwls 12-04-2017 05:27 PM

Do female penises shoot semen?

The Batlord 12-04-2017 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1901095)
Not gay because a female with a penis is just a female with a female penis

I made this point earlier, but gay is not dependent on the actual sex of the other person but on your view of them. If I see a woman from behind with the juiciest ass you've ever seen and flowing, luxurious, golden locks of pure, spun sun, and then she turns around and it's the most unsettling biker dude with a greasy mustache of all-time then that doesn't mean I was gay for ten seconds.

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1901097)
Do female penises shoot semen?

I guess if they're drunk enough on shore leave.

The Batlord 12-04-2017 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aunt spice (Post 1901101)
Yes, but your opinion is biased because you are trying to rationalize that drunken BJ from back in the day batty.

What does that have to do with anything? I wasn't telling myself he was just an ugly girl with a big clit.

The Batlord 12-04-2017 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by aunt spice (Post 1901103)
Also, you could get confused and think it was a woman's ass and find out its a man... but if you still went and ****ed it afterwards that would be sorta gay.

Stop trying to obfuscate the truth here. Like deeja(sp?) said... if you wanted a dick in your mouth then let's just say you ain't straight as an arrow.

I don't think I am, but I'm not attracted to men in any meaningful way other than jerking it to a bit of weird cartoon porn. So it seems kind of silly to call myself bi when I'd have to put an asterisk next to it to explain that I'm not really attracted to men men.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 12-04-2017 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1901105)
I don't think I am, but I'm not attracted to men in any meaningful way other than jerking it to a bit of weird cartoon porn.

tmi

Akai 12-04-2017 05:54 PM

-.- This ****ing thread dude jesus christ.

The Batlord 12-04-2017 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by aunt spice (Post 1901106)
lol weird cartoon porn... almost scared to ask

Probably for the best.

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tbh i think you're a bi that hasn't been liberated from your own dedication to straightness
I would theoretically **** a dude, but it's not something that matters to me to do or not do, and I can't say how into it I'd be without tequila to act as an aphrodisiac. I am Straight Positive and Gay Neutral basically.

DwnWthVwls 12-04-2017 06:01 PM

Well if youre not attracted to men (orthe particular man doing it) it wouldnt be better. He may also just get off on being submissive.

The Batlord 12-04-2017 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aunt spice (Post 1901118)
But don't you also like getting pegged up the ass? What makes you think the real thing wouldn't be better?

Give me a well hung tranny with a face like an angel and a passable boob job and I'll be happy to take you up on that.

DwnWthVwls 12-04-2017 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by aunt spice (Post 1901122)
Yea I guess I don't understand that. Why is he attracted to rubber cocks but not real ones.

Same reason its not enjoyable for a straight dude to **** a woman he finds physically revolting. I think youre feigning ignorance.

The Batlord 12-04-2017 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by aunt spice (Post 1901126)
That's strange though because you're being submissive in a way that traditionally would take on the female role. Like, why would a well hung tranny be good but not just a well hung dude? The penis is inherently masculine either way. And you're going to be bent over looking in the other direction.

So if a **** a dominatrix and call her "Mistress" does that make me gay? I don't find a man's face to be sexually appealing, nor the shape of their body or lack of tits. A dick isn't really attractive to me either, but change the context from "man" to "woman" and it's a whole new painting.

The Batlord 12-04-2017 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aunt spice (Post 1901127)
No I don't get that analogy at all.

It's barely an analogy because they both describe not wanting to have sex with people you don't find sexually attractive. You can't be this dim.

WWWP 12-04-2017 06:35 PM

I think we're all at least a little gay.

Y'all are just vanilla af.

The Batlord 12-04-2017 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1901149)
I think we're all at least a little gay.

Y'all are just vanilla af.

Then give me the number of a cute trans friend so I can get some of that double fudge.

WWWP 12-04-2017 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1901154)
Then give me the number of a cute trans friend so I can get some of that double fudge.

You coming to the bay or do they have to go to you? The latter will be a harder sell.

The Batlord 12-04-2017 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1901163)
You coming to the bay or do they have to go to you? The latter will be a harder sell.

I got an aunt who lives near San Fran. I'll show up on her doorstep with a duffel bag and tell her I'm here to **** boychicks.


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