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The Batlord 11-29-2017 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by uncle salty (Post 1899119)
Ah, guys like Batlord don't bother me. It's hard for me to take someone like that seriously.

I mean, he wrote 'I'm not a racist, I have a black friend', and he has an Adolf Hitler avatar.

That's how woke he is.

No. No. No. No no no. "I'm not a racist..." was in quotation marks because I was mocking you. And anyone who can't appreciate a good Hitler avatar doesn't deserve a gay son.

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Originally Posted by Ziggy ''Frappanised'' Zappada (Post 1899163)
Edit: wait, I hope we're not using the term 'woke' unironically now...

Oh dear god no.

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Originally Posted by uncle salty (Post 1899207)
No, I fully understand the point he was trying to make.

But, same as me, it's an opinion and he's entitled to it.

I am a bit baffled by the whole 'woke' thing. Is it a cooler way to say you're aware? Because it just sounds illiterate.

Really? Cause I'm pretty sure I was just having fun being a drunk dickhead.

Xurtio 11-29-2017 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1899148)
I don't think any 100% heterosexual male would want to want to have sex with a former woman who still has a penis. I'd imagine you'd have to be either gay or at least bi-sexual. Same goes for a relationship where the transgender partner is post-op, probably.

I'ts honestly a very strange and very volatile thing to talk about. It's complex, people have strong feelings about it and it's one of the quickest ways to unexpectedly piss someone off on the internet. I feel like I should just shut up.

I'm going out on thin ice anyways as saying that in my view, though it does not make them lesser as people, I don't ever think that a transgender person can transition 100%. You will forever be transgender, rather than completely be what you wish you could be. This is sad to think, since these people really feel like they need it, but I don't think it could be any other way, short of reincarnation. So an - even very convincing transgender male-to-female person - is still male in some kind of sense - as well as female in another sense.

it's more complicated than you think (sexual dimorphism, I mean). We all start as females in the womb, right? there's a set of molecules called androgens that act on specific pathways of expression and cause particular morpholigical changes which are obvious for us to observe (gonadal sex). But it's not always the case the genetic sex is the same as gonadal sex (sometimes the androgen program fails completely and a genetic male stays gonadally female).

but.. gonads are directly observable. changes in immune system, circulatory system, and brain chemistry are not, and androgen expression works to different degrees in different pathways in different people.

Where do you define 100% male? They must be a vanishingly small set (statistically) of perfect androgen expression. it's with low probability any particular male in a given room is such.

MicShazam 11-30-2017 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1899345)
it's more complicated than you think (sexual dimorphism, I mean). We all start as females in the womb, right? there's a set of molecules called androgens that act on specific pathways of expression and cause particular morpholigical changes which are obvious for us to observe (gonadal sex). But it's not always the case the genetic sex is the same as gonadal sex (sometimes the androgen program fails completely and a genetic male stays gonadally female).

but.. gonads are directly observable. changes in immune system, circulatory system, and brain chemistry are not, and androgen expression works to different degrees in different pathways in different people.

Where do you define 100% male? They must be a vanishingly small set (statistically) of perfect androgen expression. it's with low probability any particular male in a given room is such.

And to think that I found it plentifully impossible to talk about already. I'm no stranger to gender identity/sexuality debates (as a viewer/reader - not participant), so the last thing I need is more complexity. The easy way out it to stay far, far away from this hot potato.

In reality, I don't actually have to take a stance on things like the silly original question of this thread. If a gorgeous trans woman asked me on a date, I'd have to figure out what this all means, I guess.

Maajo 11-30-2017 04:00 AM

This is probably way too black and white for some folks, but if you have a dick in your mouth and you wanted it to be there, you're not exclusively into girls.

Cuthbert 11-30-2017 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1899417)
This is probably way too black and white for some folks, but if you have a dick in your mouth and you wanted it to be there, you're not exclusively into girls.

Agreed. It's a dick. If you're doing it for enjoyment then obviously it's gay, there is nothing wrong with it but it is. There is actually a post on the early pages that claims it's not gay if the dick owner 'identifies' as female :D

Akai 11-30-2017 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1899431)
Agreed. It's a dick. If you're doing it for enjoyment then obviously it's gay, there is nothing wrong with it but it is. There is actually a post on the early pages that claims it's not gay if the dick owner 'identifies' as female :D

It's not gay if you're not hard -Marilyn Manson

uncle salty 12-01-2017 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1899329)
No. No. No. No no no. "I'm not a racist..." was in quotation marks because I was mocking you. .

100% aware of this. My facetious reply must have been over a few heads.


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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1899329)
Really? Cause I'm pretty sure I was just having fun being a drunk dickhead.

:laughing:

A direct hit.

RiPS 12-01-2017 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by uncle salty (Post 1899866)
100% aware of this. My facetious reply must have been over a few heads.


:laughing:

You have no idea where you are.

But you'll learn... And leave.

uncle salty 12-01-2017 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RiPS (Post 1899876)
You have no idea where you are.

But you'll learn... And leave.

Thank you for the heads up.

I guess I should leave now, since you're so obviously a long standing member this community and have such a grasp on who I am.


(Now here's somebody who's truly...uh...woke.)


oh. and that's a pretty cool avatar, BTW.

DwnWthVwls 12-04-2017 05:24 PM

Sometimes you just need a good mansplaining, John Wilkes Bitch. :D


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