That's just cold-blooded.

Killing doesn't have to be immoral. Animals can be given full and healthy lives, and slaughtered in a manner that is almost completely without pain. This actually brings an example to mind; there are nomads in north western China (I believe the Xinjiang region) that give their herds long and natural lives, and then slaughter them by puncturing a blood vessel in a way that causes them to simply fall asleep and die without pain. So the morality of killing is up for debate, because it varies in each case and is always open to variables and interpretations. In fact, there are even people who choose to let animals die naturally before they eat them.

While killing can be handled in a variety of ways that allow the animal to have a life free from unnatural pain, having sex with an animal can not be accomplished without causing unnatural pain to them. There are ways to kill and eat animals without even really disturbing their natural cycle, while sex will always be exploitative of their limited intelligence.

But I can see that nobody else seems very keen to kick this argument off again, and the reason why seems readily apparent as we are just going in circles (and the topic has already been discussed in another thread), so consider this my parting shot. I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree.

...were you looking for pics of fish dicks or were they dicks in fish that you were not intending to see?

WHY AM I ASKING THIS.

You're argument just isn't logical and you're stubborn beyond reason.

Hi Brickwall, nice to meet you.

lol

would you say it's not necessarily immoral to kill healthy, non-comatose people without their consent so long as you do it in a humane way? if not, then you already accept that human rights need not necessarily extend to animals. so even if it were true that ****ing them in a painless way is impossible (which i would argue is not necessarily true, depending on the animal and the sex act) this doesn't necessarily make it 'immoral.' it all depends on which rights you wish to grant them.

but yea, we can just disagree. it's cool. most people generally agree with your pov.
my friend sent me the pic without warning.

So that's what friends are for. Huh.

Yeah, meat can be made with limited suffering involved but I don't see that happening on a broad scale any time soon. I'd also venture to say that most people who eat meat eat meat made from questionable practices that would be comparable to rape. Those chicken nugget type things everyone loves? They grind little baby chicks up alive to make that stuff.

damn... so that's why they taste so good

Oh come on. They don't grind up baby chickens. They just stick adult chickens in tiny cages and force-feed them until they become as bloated as possible, forcing them to have more eggs than they could ever possibly have in nature, and then kill them in the most drawn out and painful ways possible. After all, they're not monsters. (the moral: Sometimes the truth is worse than the myth)

i heard in asia they eat human fetus. part of me suspects that it's probably pretty tasty