Chula Vista

JWB. You are standing in front of an insane violent person. You spit in their face. They tell you not to do it again, "or else".

Do you spit again?

Yes = brave?

No = prudent.

We can't make the insane violent person go away anytime soon. It's how we deal with them in the meantime that matters.

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John Wilkes Booth

you can keep coming up with these funny scenarios all you like but at the end of the day, what message does it send if when these people decide to get violent over cartoons, we pull the cartoons? can you not see how that is validating their violent tactics?

Chula Vista

Dude, of course. The Islamic Terrorists SUCK. F*CK THEM. They should burn in hell.

Hey, they didn't go away. Crap.

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and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

DwnWthVwls

That's just an ignorant way to approach diplomacy tbh. There is nothing wrong with showing a little courtesy to people you disagree with, it doesn't matter how small or large the scale or level of disagreement. You sound like Lord Lare in the swastika thread.

Ever heard the phrase, "cutting off your nose to spite your face?"

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John Wilkes Booth

you're not addressing my point. if you make violence an effective tactic for obtaining censorship, how exactly are you not encouraging violence every time a certain party desires censorship?

Chula Vista

You are just not getting it. Ideals are awesome. F*cking A!!! Good for you.

But are you willing to spit in the dudes face because of them?

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

DwnWthVwls

I don't really see how its affecting censorship tbh. Is the French government changing it's policies? It was a sh*tty incident that will blow over and things will go back to normal. You're just blowing it out of proportion.

If you wanna complain about something like this why don't you start standing up for all the muslim americans who are now being targeted by our government ever since 9/11? Now that's some bullsh*t, not to mention all the policy changes that happened afterward.

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John Wilkes Booth

@ chula

yea.... if you mean freedom of speech? absolutely. caving in is the worst thing you could do at this point.

John Wilkes Booth

that's cause you're thinking about policy. this isn't about policy. we aren't dealing with policy. we're dealing with a group of people who say insult our religion and there will be terror. it's not the first time this has happened and it won't be the last.

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the **** does that have to do with this topic?

DwnWthVwls

It's also not truly affecting anything. It's a back and fourth battle between people who think like you.

"I'm not backing down to these terrorists it's my right to do this"
"I'm not backing down to these cartoonists they are insulting our religion"

Granted one may be more extreme than the other but the cultures are completely different, and it's because of people with your mindset that this is such an impossible situation to resolve. Definition of insanity applies perfectly here.

Edit: It doesn't relate to the thread per say, it's just that when it comes to this topic of people losing certain rights/privileges there are way worse scenarios currently in existence and you're making a fuss over something minuscule in comparison.

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